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TigeRRUppeRRcut 07-30-2017 12:23 PM

Peters just said tyreek hill is one of the best wide receivers now and that he's more than just speed.

What's the news on Conley? Distant second or tied in a 3 way battle with Robinson/Chesson?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 07-30-2017 12:25 PM

I'm amazed by how much the mods allow with the trash talking on Smith.. You know .. Our undisputed QB for this season

TigeRRUppeRRcut 07-30-2017 12:27 PM

Smith connected to hill 40 yards beating out Peters, per Peter Sweeney

Rasputin 07-30-2017 12:28 PM

Maybe we wouldn't be so hard on Alex Smith if he would throw to open guys in the playoff game so that we may go down and score points to win it?


So he has to prove himself every week or he is bound to lose his job because Patrick Mahomes II will be nipping at his heels.


Fact not Fiction.

New World Order 07-30-2017 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12981800)
I'm amazed by how much the mods allow with the trash talking on Smith.. You know .. Our undisputed QB for this season

hehe

TigeRRUppeRRcut 07-30-2017 12:31 PM

:facepalm:
Keep the talks to training camp. Damn trolls.

SAUTO 07-30-2017 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12981800)
I'm amazed by how much the mods allow with the trash talking on Smith.. You know .. Our undisputed QB for this season

People are welcome to their opinion.

penbrook 07-30-2017 12:33 PM

Smith won't be replaced this season

TigeRRUppeRRcut 07-30-2017 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12981815)
People are welcome to their opinion.

So I'm not welcome to defend Smith when they sling shit around not related to camp...

PAChiefsGuy 07-30-2017 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12981806)
Maybe we wouldn't be so hard on Alex Smith if he would throw to open guys in the playoff game so that we may go down and score points to win it?


So he has to prove himself every week or he is bound to lose his job because Patrick Mahomes II will be nipping at his heels.


Fact not Fiction.

With the MVP canidate Charles getting hurt in the 1st qrt this is what Alex did in a playoff gm.

378 yds, 4 TDs 0 INTs, 8 rush, 57 yds... Those are Alexs stats against the Colts in that playoff gm when our D let him down...

Lets not forget what Alex has done in the past for us. Obviously the Steelers did a great job on Alex last season in the playoffs but if We didn't have 50 drops that game and our run D didn't suck we win. Plenty of blame to go around, not just Alex's fault.

SAUTO 07-30-2017 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12981814)
:facepalm:
Keep the talks to training camp. Damn trolls.

You were warmed multiple times.

Posts like this are only meant to cause problems.

BucEyedPea 07-30-2017 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12981712)
Did you pose for the Hard Knocks cameras?

They didn't film the audience. But it was cool to see the players up close. Got lots of videos but the camera shake was horrific in those lil aluminum stands—especially when big bodies near me would move. Thought I was gonna fall off since I was on the top seat. Then it poured out.

SAUTO 07-30-2017 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12981820)
So I'm not welcome to defend Smith when they sling shit around not related to camp...

You asked clay what was different this. He gave you his opinion.

Geno had nothing to do with it.

You don't understand and probably won't, but I couldnt care less.

Move this to another thread and you will be in the romper room only.

penbrook 07-30-2017 12:39 PM

It didn't help that Bell ran for 178 yards vs us

Rasputin 07-30-2017 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12981821)
With the MVP canidate Charles getting hurt in the 1st qrt this is what Alex did in a playoff gm.

378 yds, 4 TDs 0 INTs, 8 rush, 57 yds... Those are Alexs stats against the Colts in that playoff gm when our D let him down...

Lets not forget what Alex has done in the past for us. Obviously the Steelers did a great job on Alex last season in the playoffs but if We didn't have 50 drops that game and our run D didn't suck we win. Plenty of blame to go around, not just Alex's fault.

Well we drafted his replacement for a reason and Patrick seems to be holding his own in camp so he gives me reason enough to be excited for our future and that future not being with Alex Smith.

bigjosh 07-30-2017 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12981820)
So I'm not welcome to defend Smith when they sling shit around not related to camp...

the problem is that you dont just "defend Smith"

Anytime a poster mentions Pat Mahomes, you feel the need to mention that "Smith is the number one" even when Alex Smiths name wasnt even whispered. Everyone gets it. You love Alex. Not all of us do, and most of us are excited about an actual potential franchise QB for the first time since Len Dawson.

Stop mucking up threads with this shit. Every thread in this place is full of your Alex masturbation. No one gives a shit except you and penbrook. You guys should just make your own OFFICIAL Alex Smith Circlejerk thread

New World Order 07-30-2017 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 12981829)
They didn't film the audience. But it was cool to see the players up close. Got lots of videos but the camera shake was horrific in those lil aluminum stands—especially when big bodies near me would move. Thought I was gonna fall off since I was on the top seat. Then it poured out.


Hey BEP, you should post more in the football forum.

Rasputin 07-30-2017 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12981796)
Peters just said tyreek hill is one of the best wide receivers now and that he's more than just speed.

What's the news on Conley? Distant second or tied in a 3 way battle with Robinson/Chesson?

You know what this means on Tyreek being the best WR in Peters opinion well it means that Tyreek is going make Peters even better on game day and he is going be quicker to the ball for picks.

Coochie liquor 07-30-2017 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12981601)
****. Hill is owning this camp. He's going to be a legit superstar. Steve Smith with 4.2 speed.

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes at QB. Hill vs Peters. This battle was won by Hill. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DivingCatch?src=hash">#DivingCatch</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride">@ArrowheadPride</a> <a href="https://t.co/euACS0QkT8">pic.twitter.com/euACS0QkT8</a></p>&mdash; Andrew Carter (@Andrew__Carter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Andrew__Carter/status/891664228116987904">July 30, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Holy shit, that's an amazing catch. I'm on my phone and can't tell who's throwing it to him. Seems like a tight window, so prob not Alex?

BlackOp 07-30-2017 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12981817)
Smith won't be replaced this season

I'm on record saying he'll have his best season. When they brought in Kap as a legit threat to his job...he was leading the NFL, the following year, until he was hurt.

Smith has real pressure/competition for the first time since joining KC...

pugsnotdrugs19 07-30-2017 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 12981878)
Holy shit, that's an amazing catch. I'm on my phone and can't tell who's throwing it to him. Seems like a tight window, so prob not Alex?

It's Mahomes

:D

RunKC 07-30-2017 12:59 PM

I'm excited to see Wintzmann. He's got all the athletic and body traits the same as Ehinger, but he needs some coaching. If he's better than Fulton, we're in business.

And here we were thinking this would be Damien Mama.

Rasputin 07-30-2017 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 12981878)
Holy shit, that's an amazing catch. I'm on my phone and can't tell who's throwing it to him. Seems like a tight window, so prob not Alex?

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12981884)
It's Mahomes

:D

Yes Patrick Mahomes II :)

mdchiefsfan 07-30-2017 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 12981878)
Holy shit, that's an amazing catch. I'm on my phone and can't tell who's throwing it to him. Seems like a tight window, so prob not Alex?

Peters was draped on Hill. Very nice coverage; better throw and catch. Not getting too hyped with a practice rep, but that is the difference between taking what is given to you and throwing a receiver open. We haven't seen much of the latter in KC in recent years.

Rasputin 07-30-2017 01:33 PM

I want to know how Dee Ford is doing and what expectations to have with him.

I think he did great the first half of the season last year but fell off when he was lined up on the right side vs LT when Houston returned. I'm wanting him to pick it up on the right side and be effective and give Eric Fisher a real battle in camp making each other that much better.

I think we got to count on Ford to add another gear to his game for taking over Tamba Hali those are big shoes to fill.

pugsnotdrugs19 07-30-2017 01:36 PM

It can and will be tough to remain patient with Mahomes and whatever results he produces through camp and preseason.

When they play SF at Arrowhead in a couple weeks, he could throw 2 TDs, he could throw 2 INTs-- it doesn't really mean all that much in the long term picture. But damn is it going to be an exciting time for the entire organization and fan base.

pugsnotdrugs19 07-30-2017 01:38 PM

Terez Paylor reported that Tanoh Kpassagnon tore up the 1v1 drills today. Said he beat Fisher a couple of times.

Rasputin 07-30-2017 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12982006)
It can and will be tough to remain patient with Mahomes and whatever results he produces through camp and preseason.

When they play SF at Arrowhead in a couple weeks, he could throw 2 TDs, he could throw 2 INTs-- it doesn't really mean all that much in the long term picture. But damn is it going to be an exciting time for the entire organization and fan base.

I think the key for success in preseason is more so the handling the play calling and lining up the guys. Is he going go under center without issues like Casey Printers had? Can he make chicken salad out of chicken shit?

I don't think he will have a problem handling the snap and winging it down the field but making sure guys are where they are suppose to be is a litmus test, and recognizing the defense.

Coach 07-30-2017 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12982009)
Terez Paylor reported that Tanoh Kpassagnon tore up the 1v1 drills today. Said he beat Fisher a couple of times.

[sarcasm]Welp, that confirms it. Fisher is a bust.[/sarcasm]

Jokes aside, that's a good sign.

RunKC 07-30-2017 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12982009)
Terez Paylor reported that Tanoh Kpassagnon tore up the 1v1 drills today. Said he beat Fisher a couple of times.

After Mahomes, I'm most excited about this guy. I think he's going to surprise people more than Kareem Hunt.

Rasputin 07-30-2017 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12982022)
After Mahomes, I'm most excited about this guy. I think he's going to surprise people more than Kareem Hunt.

I won't be surprised but I'm stoked for this draft class.

Easy 6 07-30-2017 02:25 PM

Dat arm on St Patrick... :whackit:

stumppy 07-30-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12982031)
I won't be surprised but I'm stoked for this draft class.

Me too. I haven't been this excited about our rookies since....well.....never.

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2017 02:34 PM

Tanoh looks like a beast

Coochie liquor 07-30-2017 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12982009)
Terez Paylor reported that Tanoh Kpassagnon tore up the 1v1 drills today. Said he beat Fisher a couple of times.

I really fee like he's gonna be a beast for us. If he contributes a good amount this season, our D could be really special. Hoping everyone stays healthy for once!

ThaVirus 07-30-2017 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12982009)
Terez Paylor reported that Tanoh Kpassagnon tore...


Change your word usage in the future, please.

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2017 05:14 PM

Tanoh was reportedly used as a down lineman and an edge rusher.

If he can rush the passer in both positions, look out.

RunKC 07-30-2017 05:14 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/NPNowZenn...505728/video/1

Holy shit! This is awesome!

Kareem Hunt with the one handed grab!

RunKC 07-30-2017 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12982640)
Tanoh was reportedly used as a down lineman and an edge rusher.

If he can rush the passer in both positions, look out.

He was doing both DL and OLB drills at the Senior Bowl and I remember thinking he can be used as solid insurance out wide.

Dude looks awesome

O.city 07-30-2017 05:26 PM

Any word on Chris Jones?

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2017 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12982647)
He was doing both DL and OLB drills at the Senior Bowl and I remember thinking he can be used as solid insurance out wide.

Dude looks awesome

He whooped Fisher in the 1 on 1 drill.

Logan whooped Morse, too.

It would be a game changer if both these guys can play at a high level.

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2017 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12982654)
Any word on Chris Jones?

Last I saw, he's 2-3 weeks out from participating

pugsnotdrugs19 07-30-2017 05:35 PM

Pete Sweeney says that CJ Spiller looks like 'a guy who belongs on the 53' so far.

I can't see us cutting West. Perhaps we keep 4 backs again like we normally have.

penbrook 07-30-2017 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12982665)
Pete Sweeney says that CJ Spiller looks like 'a guy who belongs on the 53' so far.

I can't see us cutting West. Perhaps we keep 4 backs again like we normally have.

More than likely. West gives you the receiving threat. Ware is a pound the rock down the middle type of guy. Spiller is quick and can get out in space. Hunt we haven't seen.

RunKC 07-30-2017 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12982665)
Pete Sweeney says that CJ Spiller looks like 'a guy who belongs on the 53' so far.

I can't see us cutting West. Perhaps we keep 4 backs again like we normally have.

Would like to see him fill the Knile Davis role. Have him be on kickoff duty with DAT

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2017 05:55 PM

I'd rather see 5 RB's on the roster rather than 4 TE's.

RunKC 07-30-2017 06:15 PM

Here's Tanoh vs Fisher. The fact he's dominating Fisher in pure strength is reason enough for excitement.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChiefsRep...56792304336899

I can't wait to see this guy play.

Hammock Parties 07-30-2017 06:27 PM

The last time we saw Fisher he was getting his ass kicked by a 40-year old, and now he's getting his ass kicked by a rookie.

I'm not sure his career is trending upward.

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2017 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12982731)
The last time we saw Fisher he was getting his ass kicked by a 40-year old, and now he's getting his ass kicked by a rookie.

I'm not sure his career is trending upward.

To be fair, Harrison is a freak that kicks just about everyone's ass.

Titty Meat 07-30-2017 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12982665)
Pete Sweeney says that CJ Spiller looks like 'a guy who belongs on the 53' so far.

I can't see us cutting West. Perhaps we keep 4 backs again like we normally have.

West is garbage. Spiller will be the kick off returner no?

Hammock Parties 07-30-2017 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12982737)
To be fair, Harrison is a freak that kicks just about everyone's ass.

No he's not. He had five sacks last year.

penbrook 07-30-2017 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12982744)
West is garbage. Spiller will be the kick off returner no?

West is not garbage. He can pick up blitzes and is a dangerous receiving threat from the backfield

Titty Meat 07-30-2017 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12982748)
West is not garbage. He can pick up blitzes and is a dangerous receiving threat from the backfield

3.3 ypc ****ing sucks

penbrook 07-30-2017 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12982751)
3.3 ypc ****ing sucks

Carr had less YPA than Smith. So does Carr suck?

stumppy 07-30-2017 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12982752)
Carr had less YPA than Smith. So does Carr suck?

That's a pretty stupid comparison.

O.city 07-30-2017 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12982717)
Here's Tanoh vs Fisher. The fact he's dominating Fisher in pure strength is reason enough for excitement.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChiefsRep...56792304336899

I can't wait to see this guy play.

Fisher reset fine.i wouldn't call that an ass kicking

The Franchise 07-30-2017 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12982694)
I'd rather see 5 RB's on the roster rather than 4 TE's.

This

Oregon chief 07-30-2017 07:01 PM

Not sure anyone can tell much at this point but does anyone have any observations on Mitchell at CB? Is he looking like our #2 opposite Peters?

penbrook 07-30-2017 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregon chief (Post 12982769)
Not sure anyone can tell much at this point but does anyone have any observations on Mitchell at CB? Is he looking like our #2 opposite Peters?

Nelson sounds like he is doing better than Mitchell

penbrook 07-30-2017 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregon chief (Post 12982769)
Not sure anyone can tell much at this point but does anyone have any observations on Mitchell at CB? Is he looking like our #2 opposite Peters?

Even Gaines is showing improvement.

Oregon chief 07-30-2017 07:10 PM

For me that #2 CB spot is going to be pretty critical. Nice to see some competition and hopefully depth.

Chiefshrink 07-30-2017 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12982717)
Here's Tanoh vs Fisher. The fact he's dominating Fisher in pure strength is reason enough for excitement.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChiefsRep...56792304336899

I can't wait to see this guy play.

Nice. You and me both !!

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2017 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12982772)
Even Gaines is showing improvement.

Have you seen this improvement you speak of?

penbrook 07-30-2017 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12982836)
Have you seen this improvement you speak of?

No just heard of it from reporters

Titty Meat 07-30-2017 07:50 PM

Dane are you a fan of Nelson? I'm not at all. Seems like he never breaks on the ball and opponents have a high completion % against him.

penbrook 07-30-2017 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12982849)
Dane are you a fan of Nelson? I'm not at all. Seems like he never breaks on the ball and opponents have a high completion % against him.

He is tremendous in the slot. As a outside #2 not so much

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2017 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12982841)
No just heard of it from reporters

Then state "The reports coming out of camp".

There are people here that have gone to camp already and will continue to do so.

Stop making this shit difficult.

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2017 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12982849)
Dane are you a fan of Nelson? I'm not at all. Seems like he never breaks on the ball and opponents have a high completion % against him.

I'm fine with him inside but don't like him outside.

The most egregious was vs. Mike Evans in the Tampa Bay game subbing for Peters.

Ugly is a kind word for his performance that day.

ThaVirus 07-30-2017 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12982717)
Here's Tanoh vs Fisher. The fact he's dominating Fisher in pure strength is reason enough for excitement.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChiefsRep...56792304336899

I can't wait to see this guy play.


My God, Eric.

What was he hoping to accomplish with that pad level?

Reerun_KC 07-30-2017 09:42 PM

How did Patrick look today? Still leaving fans, coaches and this franchise in awe of his talent?

BryanBusby 07-30-2017 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12982717)
Here's Tanoh vs Fisher. The fact he's dominating Fisher in pure strength is reason enough for excitement.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChiefsRep...56792304336899

I can't wait to see this guy play.

Good god, Fisher was beat the moment he was out of his stance. Terrible leverage.

CoMoChief 07-30-2017 09:49 PM

Mitchell played well last season. If he can build off of the last handful of games he stepped in and played well in and improve, then Chiefs will be fine at CB. Nelson plays well in the slot. Hopefully Gaines gets it this yr and stays healthy. Highly doubtful on either imo.

Only real concern I have about Chiefs D is the run defense, front 7 stopping the run etc.

Need to be able to stop teams running games on 1st down. Get teams into 2nd n long. How much is losing Poe going to hurt or will we see any drop off?

OLB/pass rush has a lot of what ifs. supposedly houston is gonna be 100%? we'll see. hopefully he's the houston of old, the Chiefs really need him to be. Because Hali is old and Dee Ford loves to disappear half of the time. Good coverage in secondary can only help so much. This defense needs to get to the QB...often.

BryanBusby 07-30-2017 09:50 PM

Did you not see Poe play on the field? He was a liability in a lot of games.

splatbass 07-30-2017 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12981762)
Seriously mods can this mother ****er go away? Out of this thread?


Yucking it up.

Censorship sucks. And wanting someone censored because he annoys you or disagrees with you sucks even more. Do you need a safe space? Because CP isn't it.

Tribal Warfare 07-30-2017 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12983043)
Censorship sucks. And wanting someone censored because he annoys you or disagrees with you sucks even more. Do you need a safe place? Because CP isn't it.

True, but Tiger is here to annoy and pester nothingmore

mcaj22 07-30-2017 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12982751)
3.3 ypc ****ing sucks

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12982752)
Carr had less YPA than Smith. So does Carr suck?

how in the world can you make this comparison

BryanBusby 07-30-2017 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12983043)
Censorship sucks. And wanting someone censored because he annoys you or disagrees with you sucks even more. Do you need a safe space? Because CP isn't it.

I think you should get a better grasp on what actual Censorship entails of before tossing around that accusation.

The mods never told him to stop talking positively about Alex Smith. They told him to stop shitting up every single topic over it, in a clear trolling fashion. That's not Censorship, dumb ass.

splatbass 07-30-2017 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12981826)
You were warmed multiple times.

Posts like this are only meant to cause problems.

Are you really threatening to ban someone because he defends Alex Smith? This place has really gone to shit.

splatbass 07-30-2017 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 12983052)
I think you should get a better grasp on what actual Censorship entails of before tossing around that accusation.

The mods never told him to stop talking positively about Alex Smith. They told him to stop shitting up every single topic over it, in a clear trolling fashion. That's not Censorship, dumb ass.

BECAUSE HE DEFENDS ALEX SMITH. That is BS on a board that prides itself on low moderation. He just defends Alex Smith, while EVERYONE else attacks Smith and Tigger. BS.

splatbass 07-30-2017 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 12983049)
True, but Tiger is here to annoy and pester nothingmore

So are a lot of the Alex Haters. Clay, Sweet Daddy Hate, Inmem, etc. But everyone piles on Tigger, including the mods. How about everyone just grow a pair and ignore anyone that they don't like?


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