In all likelihood you're 3 wins away from winning it all, given Ohio State needs to lose. It's a joke that Alabama is now out which shows college football is dumb but if you really face FSU (a certainty to be there) and win? Entirely deserved national title. You'll be 7-10pt dogs in that one but anything can happen.

Not sure what the sec comment means, I haven't seen or heard from a single KU fan they were "jealous" of not being there. But I do recall some saying you'd never get invited.

Some ku fans claimed that we'd NEVER win in the SEC. NEVER. Think about how stupid that is. Well, we've already won the SEC East and have a shot at the conference title.

I'm one of them, I'll admit. I also believe MU will struggle over the long term, although I never believed they wouldn't compete with all the dogs in that league either like some did.

So...

On Saturday...

Mizzou or Auburn will win the SEC

Baylor could win the Big 12

Michigan State could win the B1G

Duke could win the ACC

Arizona State could win the PAC


Interesting times we live in...

Michigan State & Auburn have plenty of history and have won their share over the years. But the rest of that um......ya. Also Stanford not mentioned has 3 conf titles in the last 4 decades so they aren't exactly a regular.

If Kstate can win a league title anything is possible although some things improbable.

If ohio state were to lose and Mizzou were to beat auburn then the nc game would be Florida st. Vs bama

Shafted but likely

I don't think so, we'd get a good boost beating Aub while Bammer sits at home & remember they aren't ahead of us by much. Plus if we win as SEC champs the talk can easily turn to dismissing our one loss as it was w/ a backup QB who's no longer starting & resulted from a missed FG in double OT against a top 10 conference opponent.

We didn't get exposed like Clemson, Stanford and/or Oregon did or take a dump against Notre Dame like Arizona State & Michigan State.

I think Alabama's done nationally this year unless both OSU & Fla St lose which is highly improbable. Basically it's not going to happen.

It's not like Alabama got "blown out" in their lone loss.

You can't dismiss what Alabama has done the entire year. It will probably come down to voters and unfortunately I agree with Elder. I think Alabama would get a slight nod.

That being said I don't think OSU or FSU are losing.

It's not a matter of dismissing them one way or the other but factoring in what I figure would be the boost Mizzou would get beating Aub while Rammer Jammer sits at home relative to the current lead they have in the BCS Standings over us.

That is also not to dismiss your or TE's opinion as I'm just taking an educated guess based on where things are at the moment. It could play out as you think as well.

OSU could lose. That wouldn't necessarily surprise me that much although I don't really think they will. If Fla St loses I'll be flat out shocked just like the rest of the free world.

Alabama isn't getting the nod over whoever wins the SEC Championship.

I guess it's theoretically possible, because the national championship is between whomever is #1 and #2 in the BCS standings, that the SEC champion could not go and another SEC team would go. But Alabama is already behind Auburn, and Missouri only needs .01 to jump Alabama, which certainly they would get if they won on Saturday.

The idea that Alabama would jump both the SEC champion and the SEC runner-up is an idea that, as Zach said, only appears on Chiefsplanet.

Jesus ****ing Christ people are stupid. Alabama is not getting the nod over Missouri if Missouri wins the SECCG.

I know there's tremendous Alabama fatigue in the country but any voter who really puts anyone over them for the 2 spot is a fool. Both they an FSU would be 7-10 point favorites over everyone else. Wasn't the BCS supposed to put the top two teams in the finale?

I think Kansas fans have had a chip on their shoulder throughout this realignment saga about their rival being chosen over them. Evidence the thousands of naysaying posts in our three realignment threads. Why are at least half the posts from Kansas fans, when Kansas was never a factor in realignment at all?

I think it stings that Kansas had one successful football season but the program sank back to its previous level, and then realignment comes along and football drives the whole thing, and it brings thoughts of what might have been.

Jealous isn't a moral judgement. It's just an assessment of what motivates all the naysaying. There is a hope that it will be proved that Missouri was not deserving of the promotion - if we didn't receive a certain honor, it will make us feel better if the one who did get it fails.

If that's the case, then why even play the ****ing games? Auburn beats Alabama to advance to the championship game and has the same # of conference and total losses, but they don't deserve to be ranked above them?

In what other situations have we found KU fans alleging that a team losing to another team head to head and ranking behind them in the BCS is more deserving of a BCS appointment? :hmmm:

There is no need to play the games as far as bitch is concerned. Records don't mean shit. You plug data into computers and let them tell you who the best team is. If you don't like the response, you just change the formula mid-season until you arrive at your predetermined conclusion.

The computers are never wrong. Never mind the fact that they can't possibly account for every important variable. Never mind the fact that they don't even agree with each other. Never mind the fact that the people who run the computer systems have one formula to determine who they think is the best and another to determine BCS rankings that can produce wildly different results from one another (UCF is ranked #2 in Sagarin's BCS poll and #38 in his personal ranking).

None of that matters. The computers are correct. Even when they disagree with one another, they are still correct.

He is worse than KenPomConnection

At least KCC understands that KenPom is useful as a tool rather than the ultimate arbiter. Bitch waits for the games to end so that he can check the computer to see who would be favored in a rematch and then declares that team victorious. I've never seen anything like it.

His KU brethren have shunned him, so somehow we're stuck with his idiocy. Oh well...when you're in the title hunt in football and even undefeated in basketball, you can live with it.

A football season like this trumps anything done in hoops

Huh? They've played 12 already. I thought we played te games to determine the top 2. Here we are at the end and those 2 are clearly identified. What's your point?

Just wow...never thought I'd see the day when Texas football was an afterthought in its own state. The craziest part is that the numbers for the LHN games are inflated. They both officially drew 0.0 ratings but rounded them up to a 0.1.

Crazy shit when more people watch Mizzou play aTm than watch Oklahoma vs Texas.



TV share and viewer numbers from this season.

UT-BYU ............. 0.8 ..... 1,290,000
UT-Ole Miss ........ 0.1 ..... 130,000 (LHN)
UT-ISU ............. 1.5 ..... 2,400,000
UT-OU .............. 3.0, .... 4,710,000
UT-TCU.......... ... 0.4, .... 676,000
UT-KU .............. 0.1 ..... 130,000 (LHN)
UT-WVU ............. 1.5 ..... 2,650,000
UT-OSU ............. 1.4 ..... 2,190,000
UT-Tech ............ 0.7 ..... 1,050,000

A&M-Rice ........... 2.7 ..... 4,200,000
A&M-'Bama .......... 8.5 ... 13,590,000
A&M-SMU ............ 0.5 ..... 809,000
A&M-Arky ........... 1.7 ..... 2,760,000
A&M-Ole Miss ....... 3.2 ..... 5,110,000
A&M-Auburn ......... 4.2 ..... 6,730,000
A&M-UTEP ........... 0.7 ..... 1,120,000
A&M-MSU ............ 2.9 ..... 4,530,000
A&M-LSU ............ 4.8 ..... 8,140,000
A&M-Mizzou ......... 3.6 ..... 5,730,000

Average share:

A&M ...... 3.28
UT ...... 1.06

Total viewers:

A&M ...... 52,719,000
UT ...... 15,181,000

Texas' highest rated game only rated higher than the lowest rated Texas A&M game? That is pretty surprising.

A&M-Mizzou game had 22% more viewers than the only premier game in the Big 12?

Ouch. Looks like Big 12 viewership is falling faster than even the biggest critics could imagine.

Where'd you get those #'s SG?

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/coll...ll-tv-ratings/

Thanks dude.

Let's see those numbers stay above UT once "you know who" leaves...
































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huh? Baylor-Oklahoma State was higher than both. You're focusing on the wrong games.

Yeah. It almost got half the Alabama aTm rating...but this conversation is about Texas no longer being the main event in Texas college football.

Texas-KSU was a 3.5

Not sure why SG is leaving out numbers in his post.

They are. Everyone on this board and around America only watches A&M because of Johnny Longhorn.

Why does no one watch the whorns? Those are putrid TV ratings for the Big 12's premier program.

That's interesting. I wonder why the ratings fluctuate, then. Did he not play in every one of their games?

The Johnny Longhorn thing is kind of funny...but not for the reason you intended. He wanted to play QB at Texas, but they wanted him to play Safety, so he went to aTm. Back when he was recruited, Texas was still the biggest show in town. With all of their resources and power, they weren't smart enough to identify the best QB ever to play college football. Oops...glad we aren't in the conference they are running anymore. Mostly, they're just running it into the ground.

Full list of TV ratings for each program here:

http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2013/...as-am-missouri

Mizzou was 21st in the country.

Big 12 had the worst TV ratings of any power conference.

LMAO

Have we checked with Sagarin about this?

It takes a lot of ineptitude to achieve this level of a fall from relevancy.

Rather than buy into the idea of a conference network, they decided to go rogue. In so doing, they drove four original members out of the conference with the LHN being the final straw. They also put three games on a channel that next to nobody has...even in Texas, effectively blacking out a quarter of their games.

Since then, aTm has captured the casual fans in Texas with JFF winning the Heisman. Nebraska fans watched their team win their division in the B1G. The 16,000,000 eyeballs in Missouri couldn't care less about a mediocre Texas team when their team is tearing it up in the SEC.

Meanwhile, the Horns kicked off the season with blowout losses to BYU and Ole Miss. (Word to the wise: when you're trying to convince the country that your conference is a comparable product to the SEC, don't have your flagship program get blown out...at home, no less...to a perennial SEC doormat...and then let that flagship team turn around and go 7-1 in conference...with a backup QB...and after replacing their DC midseason with a guy who hadn't coached anything in years.)

But wait...there's more. They decided to replace their aTm rivalry game with a matchup on Thanksgiving...against...wait for it...TCU. When I think of people in the Lone Star State watching football on Thanksgiving, I think TCU. Who's with me? Suffice it to say, it...did not go well.


You know the Big 12 is in trouble when the highest rated game of the conference season involves teams from Texas and Oklahoma...and involves neither the Longhorns nor the Sooners.

I also left out their 0.0 against NMSU. I think the point still stands.

Guilty as charged, I dvrd one MU game and it was Johnny Reb. As I zipped through it seemed like they never had possession

Kansas fans...DVRing a Mizzou game against aTm...to watch a guy that Texas wouldn't let play QB. There you go.

I wonder how many Big 12 games Georgia fans DVRd. (Just kidding...everyone knows the answer is zero. Nobody watches Big 12 games live. They sure as hell don't record them to watch again later.)

I didn't watch many Big 12 games either, I had your daily recaps to go off. And the actual data to correct all your hilariously awful narratives.

How on Earth does the Big 12 keep landing massive network deals when no one watches the games?

It's insanity I tell you.

UT is a has been!

BTW- ouch mizzou

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/im...0106200910.jpg

Nobody did, it would seem.

Is this the Big 12 fan's version of "scoreboard"?

nah, trophy cases are pretty full in the Big 12. (Well with the exception of Baylor and ISU I suppose)

2011 List

2012 List

Perhaps this was mentioned, but here is a link that pulls the Sports Media Watch numbers together:

http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2013/...as-am-missouri

Bambi that data is highly misleading because schools don't uniformly report income by segment.

3-40 is a great conference record

I love it. The Big 12 apologists in this thread are like the losers who tell everyone in the bar how much their shirt cost in hopes that it will get them laid. Then, when that doesn't work, they pick a fight with the guy in a t-shirt and jeans who is leaving with the girl. In the end, all they're ever left with is a fat lip, a bloody shirt, and a crusty wad of tissues.

Sadly, they'll be back at the bar tomorrow with a new shirt, a band-aid, and supreme confidence that this will be the night everything finally turns around.

Mostly just Wickedson.

He'll get around to endowment smack here in short order.

I just can't figure out why it would possibly matter what a college football team is worth if it isn't translating to success on the field. What is Texas going to do, sell the team to a Saudi Prince and share the proceeds with the fans of other teams in the conference?

Bambi is like an Orioles fan bragging to a Royals fan about how high the Yankees payroll is.

Money in sports is great for the fans to the extent that it helps your team win. Texas football isn't winning...and Kansas football damned sure isn't winning...and the problem has nothing to do with a lack of money. They've got the best bunch of losers money can buy.

Maybe they should spend some of that money paying fans to watch the games.

You know they actually do that in the MAC.

A cousin of mine did her first two years of undergrad (recent past...last five years) at UB & she told me they actually paid students to go to the football games. I asked how it worked and she said they'd show up w/ their student I.D. and an official at the gate would hand 'em $40 to come in and watch.

Games are free for NWMS students but I had never heard of getting paid to go to them before.

Interesting. Well, the MAC games get about half the viewership of Big 12 games, so the Big 12 should only have to pay $20.

Anyone catch the interview on the news with the dad who's son was killed at Arrowhead Sunday? Wearing a Mizzou jacket. I felt doubly sorry for the man.

Was the Dad or the son wearing the jacket? Your sentence is ambiguous and poorly constructed.

You're so sad that no one wants to trade places with you.

Get something in that trophy case and perhaps your dreams will be fulfilled.

Until then... ahhhh, who am I kidding. We'll wait.

Notice how his paper arguments are easily brought down and he quickly changes the subject...rinse..repeat.

Rivals updated their rankings this week. Here's the conference breakdown of the Rivals 250:

SEC: 80
ACC: 35
B1G: 23
PAC: 22
Big 12: 16

God damn the Big 12 sucks ass.

my list is from 2013. But who knows who you're even talking about.

But if you guys win the NC the value of the mizzou football will definitely go up. Maybe even crack to top 50.

Nice

I'm interested to hear the Bama fan reaction. Do they still cheer for the West or is the butt hurt too strong ROFL

ROFL Not happening.

As much as the B1G and the ACC suck outside of their top teams, how bad do you have to be to rank that low? Yeeesh

Would Mizzou fans have cheered for KU had they beaten us and advanced to the Big 12 championship in 2007?

Bama fans are pretty loudly in our camp at this point. They hate Auburn as much/more than we hate Kansas.

I wouldn't have felt sorry for the son in that event.

As a Kansas fan I'll admit I'm pulling for Mizzou. Not that I really "want" MU to win more than I am eager to see the absolute cluster**** of a situation that will hit the SEC by a team that is still mostly "Big 12" in recruit and style.

I don't get the feeling that the old boys network is taking to kindly to the fact that a northern school like Missouri can just step in and in two years can take down the whole thing.

So...you're going with the "Mizzou being great somehow makes the Big 12 better by proxy" angle on this one? Pretending that somehow the Big 12's best are now and have always been as good as the best in the SEC? Ignoring the fact that every time anyone has stepped into the ring with the SEC, they've been crushed?

According to your link and the links provided by wsj against yours Mizzou football lost approx 60 million in value from 2012 to 2013....mmkay :rolleyes: Go worry about your clusterf*** of a team and stop trying to troll on the coat tails of your "non rival".

Until it happens I stand by what I said. This time of year is full of rumors. Take conference realignment, almost no one went where they were "rumored" to go.

Why would the "old boys network" dislike this? They voted to invite the teams. They made a concerted effort as a conference to pillage the Big 12 and take two of their best teams. They did this because expanding the conference with more strong teams will enrich them the end. It's going along exactly the way it was supposed to.

huh? I neither think MU or the Big 12 is great. I just think it would be entertaining to see someone besides the big 6 in the SEC win the conference.

But yes. The fact that 80% of the MU starters were recruited to play in the Big 12 won't go unnoticed by the old guard of the SEC.

It's just an opinion. It's entertaining regardless.

More so than seeing another LSU-Florida or something.

Of course. Rumors are fun though. And the main reason most people check this thread.