Seriously... I hope the Big 12 becomes proactive and grabs 3 immediately, and 4 additional in the next few months.

It will be hard to **** with us if we get to 16 first. The only thing preventing this was putting the fires out at home, which just happened tonight.

Now lets go light someone else's house on fire, and in turn build ours back up.

So now you have a nine team Big 12 and a Big East with 7 football members. And the SEC needs one more to have an even number. Explain to me how this is going to work out.

This shit is like a ****ing soap opera.

Shit or get off the pot.

Who are the dumb **** institutions that would voluntarily head to the Big 12 now? Are you ****ing kidding me? The presidents of these schools would have to be kin to Pioli.

Big 10 played with 11 for eons. Its not ideal, but the SEC can figure out a 13-team schedule.

Garbage, which fits with the league.

By this time next week
Missouri will say **** this! Were leaving.

I can't believe anyone here actually thinks we won't face this every year. And who the hell wants to be in a conference where we are all string puppets for OU and UT?


Get the hell out if we can.

Signed...Brady Deaton & Mike Alden

Seriously...the "leadership" at Mizzou is such a ****ing disgrace.

No thanks. There are ZERO ADs/presidents stupid enough to join this league. ZERO. I mean, who wouldn't want to be in a league with Texas' **** and crazy good football teams like the sisters of the poor that nobody else wants?

I'm not sure the administration is anywhere near that smart.

Do you think they are sitting on an open invite to the SEC?

The entire Big 12 except Texas and Oklahoma are all pussies. No real backbone shown by any school except A&M. Nebraska and Colorado showed some strength, too.

See, who says this conference can't be stable?:banghead:

This has to be raw emotion talking, because this is a BCS conference that will now retain eligibility for the next 6 years. (we'll be re-evaluated after next season, pass, then keep the autobid another 4 years)

There are a hell of a lot of teams, some of them decent, who would join.

What would you do different if you were Iowa St...or the University of Kansas right now.

no kidding. Or KSU, or Baylor, or OSU, or TTech, or perhaps Mizzou.

"Screw this, I'm sick of your crap OU and Texas, I'm leaving! I'm...uhh... going to go to..... the MWC?"

Throw Bebee off the highest building in town

The top one is likely.

Why in the hell, New Mexico? Why not just go after UTEP? Holy Crap!

Texas doesn't want TCU. South Florida would be a much more interesting proposition and open up a new recruiting market. Add them with BYU and Louisville, and I think you got something.

But not with this "5 year guarantee" crap. Really? You expect to draw members that way? You expect to sign a bigger 1st tier deal that way?

People seem to be playing arm chair conference realignment with the idea that what you want to happen will happen if you go out and do it.

LMAO

No fan off Beebe...but I have said this before.

He came into an untenable situation.

BYU poised to join B12 if stability if assured.

http://byu.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1268216

But we offer all of the Texas member you can eat. It's surprisingly satisfying.

We aren't a BCS Conference....we are all just the practice teams for the eventual OU-UT Champs each year.

If I'm MU and I'm going to get my ass handed to me, I would prefer a different partner. At least we'd be respected for no longer being Texas' and Oklahoma's b****.

He was hired to be Texas' puppet. The situation had nothing to do with it; he was never his own man, which means he should deserve no respect.

I wish that there was a way the conference could poach a power school and tell Texas to get ****ed, because aside from them, I really like the BXII setup.

Alas, given that this conference is run like Central America in the 1930s, I don't see that happening.

Get in the SEC and let Texas suck the conference past the event horizon.

Yeah. If the Big XII can show some sign they are committed to one another, schools would jump in a heartbeat from the Big East. UConn and Rutgers are "committed" until ACC calls. TCU was discussing going back to the MWC. Basketball schools don't really have a say. Big XII has to try and get its house in order first, though.

You're guys are being so dramatic.

A commish is powerless in an unbalanced conference.

LMAO

ROFL @ anyone that thinks TCU would ever have a chance in hell to make it into the Big 12. Not ever going to happen. The Big 12 doesn't want TCU nor would TCU want to be in the Big 12. UT's influence is enough for our AD to say **** that.

UT doesn't want any additional Texas schools, so I've heard from some people in the UT Ath.Dept.

UCONN is still trying to get in the ACC and has said so. Their President was not at the meeting.

Makes the most sense.

Well it looks like BYU is close to joining
http://byu.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1268216

Crap Zach beat me to it.

I have my own realignment war room going.

I am half expecting to get a front office job in a shitty conference out of this.

There we go.

Add BYU, we are at 10. Fires out. House is in order.

Add 2 quality, balanced programs in the next two weeks. Now we are in business, and not going anywhere for a while.

Then add an additional 5, and we are the first to 16, and everyone else can eat a dick.

On behalf of Husker nation & the Big10. I would like to be the first to say
Congrats to the Big12-2-1+1 on keeping it together. Way ta stay ahead of the game.

BYU would be a good get

BYU is in... so who's the next two? We'd still need 1 north, and 1 south.

North (#11): My money is on Louisville. Or Cinci, maybe.

South (#12): USF? SMU is a no, because UT wont allow another Texas school.

Welcome BYU, WV, Louisville?

You do have voting members in the conference. Obviously the biggest economic draw is Texas, and they can obviously threaten to leave at any point, but that doesn't mean that Bebee has to kowtow to them, either.

@PeteThamelNYT
Pete Thamel
My final thought for the night is that I'll be STUNNED, after talking to 3 people today, if Mizzou ends up in SEC.

Frazod...I know you are in here. I want you to do me a favor.

Next time I look like I am happy that maybe MU might do something smart and get into a real conference, pretend I am your old refrigerator and put me out of my misery.

Positives from this:

-At least MU will keep the Texas pipeline open
-Texas might actually cost itself power by overplaying its hand and leaving itself no other option but the ind. route
-Adding a team like USF could open another pipeline for Mizzou
-Should the conference return to a two division format, Mizzou probably plays in the title game nearly every year, provided OU stays south.

DAM! Its just like the day the Japs surrendered in here

http://images.newstatesman.com/blogs/Aug2010/vj-3.jpg

http://blog.magnolias.mrgmemphis.com.../fireworks.jpg

LMAO

You should have known better.....

Here's a thought. If the PAC 12 would have made up their damned minds a week ago and a consensus was reached that the Big 12 would not collapse... Would Syracuse have decided to leave if conference apocalypse was no longer upon them? does the ACC still go after Syracuse and Pitt?

They are now in an awkward situation where they grabbed two schools who they may not now need, and it is awkward to schedule for 14.

This is the only thing that's keeping me from weeping.

But you know they'll just move OU and OSU to the North and add a couple more South schools - right?

Such is the way of it for Mizzou.

Or why couldn't A&M have walked their baby nuts around the block 9 months ago.

Big XII REBRANDED: The Lazarus Conference

Our motto is Samuel L. Jackson near the end of "Long Kiss Goodnight" yelling:

"You can't kill me M#^@f^#ers!"

I think we should stand at 10 for a bit with BYU. Otherwise, we're just diluting the 2nd tier contract. If they want to go to 12, my votes are for Louisville and South Florida.

I'm just Charlie Brown and MU is my Lucy.

All Texas is going to do is get rid of Beebe and cut OU in on some of the LHN revenue. The rest of the conference isn't invited to OU's and UT's discussions on the future of our conference.

Pretty much this, except Beebe will somehow manage to keep his job.

I'm just so excited to stay in the "Dan HOOK Beebe EM is HORNS #1! HOOK EM HORNS" conference.

Morning fellas. How we doing today?

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...u5TcYicfepYSaA

Exactly. Give 'em a cut and agree to televise Oklahoma high school football games.

Visual representation of MU, KU, and KSU (note how the latter two are tied together):

http://mountaininterval.org/photos/i...hale_shark.jpg

LMAO Like the other conferences would care if the Big XII goes to 16 teams. They'd still be weaker in football than the SEC, weaker in basketball than the ACC, and get less viewership and $$ than the Big X.

Why the hell would USF join the Big XII? Unless the Big East implodes, they're staying. Although it makes zero geographic sense, you'd have a better shot at trying to pick up UCF.

Exactly.

UT will always have more than everyone else. It's like the Yankees. Sure it sucks but that's life.

The Big 12 is too good of an athletic conference to not stay together. I've been saying this for a year now but I admit all the speculation has been fun.

Now it's over.

The 2nd best football conf. The 3rd best bball conf.....(maybe the best when you combine the two) Not to mention track, baseball, etc... Why let these inferior groups try and pick you apart? It doesn't make sense.

The funniest thing about all this is that the conference looking to break apart is the Big East. The Basketball conference where the big move made so far has been by Syracuse and Pitt (basketball schools)...Pitt is kinda both I suppose.

Now it's the Big East FOOTBALL schools that are scrambling to find a home (USF, Cincy).

How ironic. ;)

Why the fuck would we care what other conferences care about? If we get paid comparably and can compete comparably and get to maintain sensible geographic proximity, why do we care who's winning a mythical conference popularity contest. By the way, the latest ESPN conference power poll says the Big XII is #1 this week. I could care less is the conference is #1 or not. All I care about is if the are an AQ conference and if they have a big time national prominence. The rest of that stuff is beyond our control. Sports conferences don't dictate the population and migration patterns of people. The midwest is one of the least populous areas of the country. Proportionately, the Big XII probably out performs those very conferences.

Here's why (and I'm not even saying they'll get an invite), the Big East chose not to renegotiate last year when it had Syracuse and Pitt, thinking they would have something better to sell this coming year. The Big XII already has its huge 2nd tier deal with the prospects of its 1st tier on the way as long as they can show some stability until that time. That's a ton more money that USF is going to make than in the Big East. Who they gonna add? East Carolina?

Personally, I hope we stop at 10 and then look at 12 a couple, three years down the line. Then yes, if we offer Louisville and South Florida, they will come.

I admire your homerism, but what makes the Big XII the 3rd best basketball conference?

In the last 20 years teams that are in the Big XII have:
1 NCAA Tournament Championship
3 NCAA Tournament Finals appearances
9 NCAA Tournament Final Four appearances

By comparison, in the same time frame SEC teams have:
5 NCAA Tournament Championships
8 NCAA Tournament Finals appearances
13 NCAA Tournament Final Four apperances

You supposedly have to have 12 teams to have a championship game.

If we took out Kansas and Texas for the Big XII and Kentucky and Florida for the SEC, what do those numbers look like?

Correct, but 10 teams doesn't revoke a BCS bid. However, like the Big X and Pac-10 in previous years, the lack of a Conference Championship game can hurt your BCS NC game hopes.

That's too bad. Maybe you should stop posting since you're wrong again?

Big XII
0 NC's
0 Finals
3 Final Fours

SEC
1 NC
2 Finals
4 Final Fours

Pretty much. If I were nit-picky I'd note that the 20 year time frame is convenient since the Texas schools have only recently cared about, and tried to improve on their basketball. I'd wonder what the last 10 years looks like.

Anyway, over the long haul the SEC has done very well. However, if the SEC doesn't pick up their game soon they will have trouble repeating their success. SEC was #6 in conference RPI last year with 2 top-10's, 3 tourney-level teams, and a whole bunch of garbage (including the entire west division)

Little cherry picking.

Make it 25 years and there's another NC (Kansas of course) and a couple more final fours.

But yes, the Big 12 has had some very underwhelming performances in recent years.

I still hope Alden & Company grow some stones and press ahead with the move, but sadly I don't see it happening. I wonder if they'll dust off their pathetic conference unity statement from last summer and just change a couple of words?

Oh well.

:shake:

Is there even any real hope for this though? It sounds like the B12 is staying put with now OU and UT having firm control. I can't imagine MU leaving with the sterotypical midwest loyalty to fault that they exhibit.

Also, the SEC continues to deny that they have offered MU a spot so MU doesnt have a home if they do leave unless they pull an aTm.

SEC also denied they wanted to expand at all, and then denied they wanted A&M. I wouldn't take anything literally at this point.

Still, I fully expect Mizzou to stay in the Big 12 at this point. For some insane reason, Brady Deaton truly believes the Big 12 Zombie Conference is preferable to the SEC.

That is the only reason I have ANY hope that MU goes to the SEC, but I give it a 5% chance.

It allows the ACC to renegotiate their TV contract to the tune of an additional $3 million or so per school per year. So, yes, I think they would have done it anyway.

I think the ACC holds at 14 until they know what Notre Dame is doing. Rutgers and UConn would jump to get into the conference, but I sense that the ACC is willing to wait until they know they can't get the bigger fish...

25 years it looks like:

Big XII
2 NCAA Tournament Championship
5 NCAA Tournament Finals appearances
12 NCAA Tournament Final Four appearances

SEC
5 NCAA Tournament Championships
8 NCAA Tournament Finals appearances
15 NCAA Tournament Final Four apperances

Would be nice if someone would step up and help KU from time to time... LOL

You should read the story over on Yahoo pretty much kissing UT's a$$ for "staying".

And they throw a dig at MU.

I see we pretty much have decided being the "playtoys" for UT and OU makes us feel better about ourselves.

Nutless wonders....I knew the Academic crowd there in Columbia would wuss out.

And yes, I am fully ready for any MU loyalist to scream at me how this works so much better for us staying in the U R (my) B**** 12.

Pac12 called for breathing room. There will still be realignment but at a more measured and sane pace.
In the meantime UT & OU will be running a train on the B12. I like how P12 told OU/UT to back the hell off; that is not something the good people in Austin, TX are accustomed to hearing.

I don't think it's safe to take any of the public statements at face value. It appears to me that Pac12 was interested in taking Texas and OU and something one or both of them demanded (probably UT) was too much for them to accept. So it could be just as true that Texas told them to back the hell off as it seems to be that the Pac12 did. If the Pac12 didn't want something here, they would have never entertained the idea of taking OU/TX in the first place.

The Pac12 did NOT want OSU and TTech. Similarly, the SEC doesn't want to be responsible for "blowing up" the Big 12 (or whatever the hell it is). Whether or not that would happen by simply taking MU, the SEC isn't going to do it. I think MU is stuck in the Big 12 and it doesn't have that much to do with those in charge at MU (this time).