So this McLaren....

In Mahomes' best statistical season, his starters were JuJu and MVS. We had Hardman, Watson, Toney, and Moore primarily as the next guys. Not exactly McLaren quality.

During the Hill years/2019-2021 run, we had an always-injured Sammy Watkins, DeMarcus Robinson, Hardman, Pringle, and De'Anthony Thomas/Dieter in some kind of weird combination. Where are all the high-end weapons outside of Hill?

The real deal here is Mahomes had better protection from his OTs. It wasn't the weapons. Hill was the only truly explosive weapon we had. We got exceptional play from Travis and really good play from our RBs in the receiving game throughout the years, whether it was McKinnon or Williams or whoever.

Rice and Worthy are the best 1-2 punch at WR that Mahomes has ever had. Adding a slot that's better than Hardman gives him, far and away, the best set of weapons he's ever had.

I think you guys are way overthinking the need for weaponry. Drink some antifreeze, go **** a hooker and get aids, and calm the **** down.

This is where I'm at.

- Rice (assuming he's healthy)
- Worthy
- Hollywood
- Burden (hopefully!)
- Remigio
- (another vet)
- (another rook?)

Kelce in his last year, Gray, and Wiley are fine, supposedly, but those aren't the weapons you build around any longer, especially considering Kelce is at the end of the line. Build up the WR room (with a playmaking RB thrown in the mix for screens and wheels) and let Mahomes cook.

Again I ask…what weapons?

Justin Watson was our WR1 dude. We were relying on him and Juju. They signed Perine at the end of camp. Then Kareem. Hopkins is a prime example of why Veach doesn't like investing in 30+ year old players unless he has to.

This offense was basically putting us in 3rd and 5+ and asking Mahomes to put on the cape.

We aren’t asking for All-Pro’s. We are simply asking for a re-stock of young, proven explosive veterans. Not ****ing washed garbage who were good 3+ years ago.

The offensive talent this year was similar to when the defense had Orlando Scandrick and Mike Hughes on defense. Fix it

Your point is well taken, especially saying Rice and Worthy are the best tandem he's had given a good slot weapon comes with the deal.

The counterpoint I would give is that Hill and Kelce were SO good and SO in their primes during those years that everyone else around those two were basically moot, even if they were above average producers on offense.

Rashee Rice and Worthy were your #1 WR's.

Shit happens.

Yeah, that's the thing. There are only so many balls to go around if you have two really good receivers of some type.

I think Gray is a really solid TE. Might not be Kelce, but he's capable of being a guy you can lean on a bit and be a 750-850 yard TE if he's the every-down guy. That's pretty solid.

You add a quality slot and an RB that can make plays out of the backfield, suddenly you have a high-octane offense.

The calls for all these high-end weapons like a Metcalf seem unwarranted. Buy Hollywood or Elijah Moore, get a RB, draft a #4, and you're in really good hands at that point, IMO.

The thing that's truly hard to obtain is a LT to allow that machine to work. That has to be the focus above all things in FA and the draft. You can't just settle for a FA and call it a day. You need a guy developing behind him too because if that FA gets injured you're ****ed again.

I'm really not a fan of collecting 5'9, 170 pound WR's, but if we're not going to TRULY attack the position, then sure - bring back Hollywood.

This is kinda where I'm at.

Everyone wants all these weapons....Sure.

Would love that. But the best offenses aren't loading up with that many weapons. Yes, they have accessory parts but they've got their couple of big weapons that they just feed the football.

The Lions have a great WR/TE/RB's. Good other pieces.

They're not paying alot to them yet.

Yeah, a high end 3rd WR option isn't really necessary. Unless Rice is just completely worthless after injury I'd feel pretty comfortable pencilling in both him and Worthy near or even over 1000 yards, and with Kelce providing a third option we have what we need there. Even when this offense was at its best the third option in the offense was typically pulling in 600 to 800 yards.

The Lions are one year away from exactly what we're suggesting.

The Bengals are about to be paying TWO guys near/at the top of the market, with Burton being their cheap guy.

WE ARE currently paying Travis while Rice and Worthy are cheap. (ironic who won't be here next year...)

The Eagles have gone void year crazy, allowing them to have 3 of their top 7 cap hits be AJ, Devonta and Goedart.

Seattle WAS paying DK and Lockett, with JSN on the rookie deal.

I'd say those are five pretty good offenses, and if you look at it from the perspective of DK replacing Kelce, not a ton changes. You're paying one guy while your other two are on team friendly deals, and you replace Pat's security blanket.

This isn't just about this year.

It just sucks that the injuries happened when they did.

Say that happens in Philly. Take Saquan away for most of the year, AJ Brown goes down for the year in weak 3....etc.

Burrow with no Jamar Chase for the season and a hobbled up second option.

It's just not gonna look good, then add in the QB doesn't trust the OL.

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I thought you were referring to Burden at the combine they had him at 6' 206

LOL, no Hollywood.

There's a reason no team has 3-peated.