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M0j0 02-22-2025 03:35 PM

The line could use an infusion. Definitely need to get under the hood and find a long term solution at LT and possibly RG. NTM that we go into the season with an injured/poss. suspended Rice and Worthy as WR 1 and 2. Kelce aging and could retire. Pacheco is injury prone with no viable backup. That scares absolutely nobody. The offense was and is a mess.

kccrow 02-22-2025 03:50 PM

They drafted 4 offensive lineman in the last two years for a reason. Gotta see these guys to the field. We really need to see Suamataia and Morris on the field and you at least hope Nourzad becomes something

smithandrew051 02-22-2025 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17976710)
They drafted 4 offensive lineman in the last two years for a reason. Gotta see these guys to the field. We really need to see Suamataia and Morris on the field and you at least hope Nourzad becomes something

Between the 4 of them, Chiefs really need the right side of Creed and 1 solid depth piece.

Sounds reasonable enough.

Titty Meat 02-22-2025 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17976710)
They drafted 4 offensive lineman in the last two years for a reason. Gotta see these guys to the field. We really need to see Suamataia and Morris on the field and you at least hope Nourzad becomes something

Nah you don't pass on talent to hope you have something that works. Not how it works

Couch-Potato 02-22-2025 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17976710)
They drafted 4 offensive lineman in the last two years for a reason. Gotta see these guys to the field. We really need to see Suamataia and Morris on the field and you at least hope Nourzad becomes something

I appreciate your confidence in our guys development, it’s the right perspective, but I’d also say that we need as much competition at OT as we can afford.

Chris Meck 02-23-2025 08:56 AM

Well, you know, sometimes guys just can't cut it out on the island, but they'll do fine in a phone booth. Crow's right, at least the earlier picks need to show something.

But I wouldn't stop drafting OL.

In THIS draft, I want a DT to complement Jonesy, and a couple of OL and maybe a RB and that is my list.

BUT-that's because this draft is pretty good for those spots. Really, you just need to stack good football players.

Couch-Potato 02-23-2025 09:25 AM

Would you trade our 2nd to move up for Simmons?

Seems reasonable, considering we have #66.

kccrow 02-23-2025 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17977093)
Would you trade our 2nd to move up for Simmons?

Seems reasonable, considering we have #66.

Depends. Gotta keep in mind the trade targets too.

I start with Minnesota at 24. Always seem to be willing to move around. You can give them 31 and swap 66 for 97 (comp) and maybe get there. Else 63 for 97. Depends on the charts used.

Who above them might be partners?
Green Bay maybe though they don't trade down a lot. Probably gotta give up a 63 or 66 and might get a 4th 123 back.
Los Angeles Chargers? Probably not
Pittsburgh? Probably not, they tend to move up but not down
Denver? Probably not, hell they may want to move up to get their TE
Arizona? Possibly, they have a GM now that likes to move but they have a lot of picks this year. 63 won't likely get you to 16 though. Probably have to add in pick #95. We might get pick #153 back from them with that.
Atlanta? They are in a sweet spot in that they probably want to move down for more picks with only having 4 (1, 2, 4, 7). That's a for sure 31, 63, and 95 move though. Better be sure about that one.

Overall, I've realized that you probably have to wait and see what makes it to Minnesota. If you like a guy, you pounce. It won't cost a fortune to change spots with them. If you end up giving up 63 and getting back 97, you are still getting a top-100 player and you still have some really good ammo to move around yet.

Couch-Potato 02-23-2025 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17977412)
Depends. Gotta keep in mind the trade targets too.

I start with Minnesota at 24. Always seem to be willing to move around. You can give them 31 and swap 66 for 97 (comp) and maybe get there. Else 63 for 97. Depends on the charts used.

Who above them might be partners?
Green Bay maybe though they don't trade down a lot. Probably gotta give up a 63 or 66 and might get a 4th 123 back.
Los Angeles Chargers? Probably not
Pittsburgh? Probably not, they tend to move up but not down
Denver? Probably not, hell they may want to move up to get their TE
Arizona? Possibly, they have a GM now that likes to move but they have a lot of picks this year. 63 won't likely get you to 16 though. Probably have to add in pick #95. We might get pick #153 back from them with that.
Atlanta? They are in a sweet spot in that they probably want to move down for more picks with only having 4 (1, 2, 4, 7). That's a for sure 31, 63, and 95 move though. Better be sure about that one.

Overall, I've realized that you probably have to wait and see what makes it to Minnesota. If you like a guy, you pounce. It won't cost a fortune to change spots with them. If you end up giving up 63 and getting back 97, you are still getting a top-100 player and you still have some really good ammo to move around yet.

ATL was my target.

kccrow 02-23-2025 07:20 PM

The idea that's holding weight in my brain right now is that if we sign a veteran LT in FA, the Chiefs should draft Donovan Jackson in round 1.

He can start at OG right now and he can back up the LT position. He's got the size you want for either spot.

I don't think many would flinch in the drafturbator community either. He's tied for 17th in Zeurlein's scoring (17-23 all carry a 6.40 grade), he's 34th on Brugler's board, and carries a top-45 grade almost everywhere I've checked.

I know it takes away from my theory that some of our other youth needs to see the field, but if I look at 2026 instead of the immediate, you could have LG Jackson, RG Suamataia, and RT Morris all on the field.

Foods for thought.

DJ's left nut 02-24-2025 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17977540)
The idea that's holding weight in my brain right now is that if we sign a veteran LT in FA, the Chiefs should draft Donovan Jackson in round 1.

He can start at OG right now and he can back up the LT position. He's got the size you want for either spot.

I don't think many would flinch in the drafturbator community either. He's tied for 17th in Zeurlein's scoring (17-23 all carry a 6.40 grade), he's 34th on Brugler's board, and carries a top-45 grade almost everywhere I've checked.

I know it takes away from my theory that some of our other youth needs to see the field, but if I look at 2026 instead of the immediate, you could have LG Jackson, RG Suamataia, and RT Morris all on the field.

Foods for thought.

Jackson has been on my list for the back of the 2nd with the hope that he slides a bit since he's so closely aligned with a lot of similar style of players.

It wouldn't take much for him to end up being the 2nd best guy on a lot of draft boards when the pick comes up through the middle 2nd. That's how slides happen.

I wouldn't consider it a given, but I think there's a coinflip chance it happens and yeah, I'd be real happy to have him at that point.

But I don't have him on the board in 1. Would end up going DL or CB instead.

Stryker 02-24-2025 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17977412)
Depends. Gotta keep in mind the trade targets too.

I start with Minnesota at 24. Always seem to be willing to move around. You can give them 31 and swap 66 for 97 (comp) and maybe get there. Else 63 for 97. Depends on the charts used.

Who above them might be partners?
Green Bay maybe though they don't trade down a lot. Probably gotta give up a 63 or 66 and might get a 4th 123 back.
Los Angeles Chargers? Probably not
Pittsburgh? Probably not, they tend to move up but not down
Denver? Probably not, hell they may want to move up to get their TE
Arizona? Possibly, they have a GM now that likes to move but they have a lot of picks this year. 63 won't likely get you to 16 though. Probably have to add in pick #95. We might get pick #153 back from them with that.
Atlanta? They are in a sweet spot in that they probably want to move down for more picks with only having 4 (1, 2, 4, 7). That's a for sure 31, 63, and 95 move though. Better be sure about that one.

Overall, I've realized that you probably have to wait and see what makes it to Minnesota. If you like a guy, you pounce. It won't cost a fortune to change spots with them. If you end up giving up 63 and getting back 97, you are still getting a top-100 player and you still have some really good ammo to move around yet.

ATL picks 15th. If they were to trade with us for picks, then you'd have a lot of choices to consider if picking at 15...

Tetairoa McMillan WR
Colston Loveland TE
Ashton Jeanty RB
Josh Simmons OT

Man, that would be incredible!:thumb:

Couch-Potato 02-24-2025 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 17977931)
ATL picks 15th. If they were to trade with us for picks, then you'd have a lot of choices to consider if picking at 15...

Tetairoa McMillan WR
Colston Loveland TE
Ashton Jeanty RB
Josh Simmons OT

Man, that would be incredible!:thumb:

Jeanty is my dream get, but I don’t even entertain it.

If somehow it happened, watch out AFC West bc we’re dialed in for the next 5 years.

Dunerdr 02-26-2025 09:22 AM

This place would shit a brick if we traded up to 15 for a RB, and so would I honestly.

Couch-Potato 02-26-2025 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17980215)
This place would shit a brick if we traded up to 15 for a RB, and so would I honestly.

Nothing would stir the pot more, but he’s the best player in the draft.


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