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BleedingRed 10-27-2022 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 16557411)
Toney is also your Hardman replacement going forward as the gadget guy. Hardman hasn’t been what we were hoping for, but definitely does have a role with us
This is correct,

He can do all the same jet sweeps etc. He does look like a more natural catcher of the ball tho./

DJ's left nut 10-27-2022 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16557392)
Well, MVS was nothing in GB and now he's doing well. JuJu didnt have great numbers last year and now he is doing well. Hardman has stepped up recently. We got two TD's out of Watson who is a Brady cast off. Moore is still learning a lot and probably in the dog house a little. Why did they trade him and why do we want him? Not sure but he does catch well and run well. Another bigger body for Mahomes and some depth. he may turn out to be a steal in December. I always hated our lack of size at WR but we have reversed that this year and it's awsome. Big Boddies matter in the red zone especially in the cold weather.
He doesn't play big at all.

He's not short, but he's not 'big'. He has a very slight build.

Again, this guy is VERY much a Mecole Hardman sort of player. Very good with the ball in his hands and excellent on sweeps, etc... Very fast (but better quick twitch burst and change of direction, IMO). Tall but lean and angular.

He's no more a red zone 'big body' than Hardman is. And like I said, if he shows anything at all, he very probably spells the end of Hardman in KC long-term.

staylor26 10-27-2022 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16557413)
Of course it does.
No, it really doesn't.

Moore and Toney can both be a big part of this offense after this year.

jd1020 10-27-2022 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16557423)
So who is going to get cut? Rojo?
Wiley. Then we can move OBJ to RT and sign Fisher. Gotta protect Mahomes so he has time to get the ball to all these receivers.

Pitt Gorilla 10-27-2022 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16557388)
Nothing really because Moore is under contract for 3 more years after this one.

If it says anything, it says they're not sold on keeping Hardman around.
Yup, not wanting to pay him the large number he might receive.

We're getting the crazy-speed WR that typically goes higher than he should in the draft for a 3rd comp.

O.city 10-27-2022 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16557401)
Exactly, if anything, this just makes me feel really good about having 2 young talented WRs on rookie deals.
Did we make a trade for another one I missed?

tredadda 10-27-2022 10:59 AM
Honestly if anyone can get him to live up to his potential it is Reid and Mahomes. Not a bad trade all things considered.

RunKC 10-27-2022 10:59 AM
Just yesterday I was bitching to DJ about how Hardman is good on scheduled manufactured touches but struggles to actually run routes consistently and play WR and there are speed options to replace what he brings without paying that mother****er.

And wouldn’t you know…24 hours later we trade a pick not even in the top 100 of the draft for a guy to do just that…and he’s cheap for 4 more years LMAO

Man life comes at you fast.

BlackOp 10-27-2022 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken Bone (Post 16557367)
I hope you guys are right and it works out. I was just hoping we would add an impact player to the defense.
You take the deals as they happen.....this fell in their lap.

htismaqe 10-27-2022 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16557422)
a third round pick

what in the **** why
A 6 foot WR that runs a 4.3 and was the 20th overall pick? A WR who will cost a grand total of like $5M for the next 3 years and has a 5th year option as well?

The real question is "why not?"

staylor26 10-27-2022 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16557430)
Did we make a trade for another one I missed?
You're right, Moore has no talent. Might as well just write him off completely!

New World Order 10-27-2022 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16557423)
So who is going to get cut? Rojo?
Hopefully Clyde

RunKC 10-27-2022 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16557434)
A 6 foot WR that runs a 4.3 and was the 20th overall pick? A WR who will cost a grand total of like $5M for the next 3 years and has a 5th year option as well?

The real question is "why not?"
Also that pick is basically a 4th. It’s not a pick in the top 100

chiefzilla1501 10-27-2022 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 16557411)
Toney is also your Hardman replacement going forward as the gadget guy. Hardman hasn’t been what we were hoping for, but definitely does have a role with us
Yeah, I mean… it seems we just figured out how to best use hardman against SF. But we’re at a point where we can’t overpay role players. I like hardman but I can’t imagine a scenario where the chiefs pay him next year unless he takes way below what he’ll be offered elsewhere.

KC Hawks 10-27-2022 11:02 AM
FWIW, a lot of Giants fans on reddit are saying his attitude problems are overblown.


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