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KChiefs1 05-02-2021 05:49 PM

Biggest question mark: Almost all of the Chiefs’ selections are both logical and demonstrate effective value. But perhaps the most intriguing gamble from Chiefs comes in the selection of Kaindoh, a true developmental defensive end who didn’t record a sack in his final season at Florida State.

Listed at 6-foot-6 and 260 pounds, Kaindoh is a pass rusher who appears to be an ascending prospect. The Chiefs just need to help Kaindoh reach his ceiling. Last season, Kaindoh had three tackles for loss and an interception that he returned for a touchdown. The hope is that he becomes a reliable contributor in 2022 to be a better selection for the Chiefs than Breeland Speaks and Tanoh Kpassagnon, two former second-round picks who didn’t generate consistent production.

KChiefs1 05-02-2021 05:56 PM

Dane Brugler’s analysis: : A one-year starter at Florida State, Kaindoh was the field defensive end in defensive coordinator Adam Fuller’s four-man front, standing up and rushing with his hand on the ground. He arrived in Tallahassee as a five-star recruit with lofty expectations and he struggled to match the hype (8.0 career sacks), primarily due to several injury issues. … Overall, Kaindoh is a toolsy prospect with his length, body control and hand strength, but he needs to stay healthy and play with better efficiency to unlock his pass rush potential. He projects as a developmental 4-3 end prospect.

SAGA45 05-02-2021 09:45 PM

To be fair, I think had it not been for Dion Jordan in 2013, Kaindoh would've gone a LOT earlier than he did.

Jordan was similar ..6'6 250lbs with a 4.6 40 and lacked sack production ("due to dropping into coverage so often" was the excuse back then) and was ultimately a bust as the No. 3 overall pick as well as a cautionary tale for teams looking to gamble on similar DE prospects that followed.

Dante84 05-02-2021 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 15659334)
To be fair, I think had it not been for Dion Jordan in 2013, Kaindoh would've gone a LOT earlier than he did.

Jordan was similar ..6'6 250lbs with a 4.6 40 and lacked sack production ("due to dropping into coverage so often" was the excuse back then) and was ultimately a bust as the No. 3 overall pick as well as a cautionary tale for teams looking to gamble on similar DE prospects that followed.

Didn’t he also light himself on fire? That was a weird story

Tribal Warfare 05-03-2021 03:08 AM

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CoMoChief 05-03-2021 03:23 AM

I mean....he's very raw, but is he any different than Tanoh?

Not a big fan of this pick, simply because this was a deep draft where you could find immediate major contributors later in the draft. Only difference now is KC isn't drafting these types in the 2nd.

Talanoa Hufanga
Adetokunbo Ogundeji
Jacoby Stevens
Tarron Jackson
Marquez Stevenson
Quincy Roche
Stone Forsythe

IMO either one of these players would have been a better pick. This team is in win now mode. It's gonna take at least 3yrs to get this guy good enough to be in the DL rotation.

kccrow 05-03-2021 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15658556)
It’s a fifth round pick. If you want measurables and production, you ain’t getting that player in the 5th

Absolute bullshit.

I'll point to Daviyon Nixon and Jamar Johnson as two shining examples of it this year.

Late 4th to early 5th you can still get some talented players. Look at guys at the end of the 4th last year in Sneed and Gabriel Davis.

They exist and capitalizing on them often pays dividends.

TwistedChief 05-03-2021 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 15659412)
I mean....he's very raw, but is he any different than Tanoh?

Not a big fan of this pick, simply because this was a deep draft where you could find immediate major contributors later in the draft. Only difference now is KC isn't drafting these types in the 2nd.

Talanoa Hufanga
Adetokunbo Ogundeji
Jacoby Stevens
Tarron Jackson
Marquez Stevenson
Quincy Roche
Stone Forsythe

IMO either one of these players would have been a better pick. This team is in win now mode. It's gonna take at least 3yrs to get this guy good enough to be in the DL rotation.

He is nothing like Tanoh. Just because someone needs to be coached up to achieve potential doesn't make him Tanoh.

ThyKingdomCome15 05-03-2021 06:27 AM

This prospect is very exciting. One thing we desperately need was a speed rusher that wasn't a smaller guy like Dee Ford. Getting around the edge is easy for Kindoah. Chris Jones and Reed will do the rest.

tredadda 05-03-2021 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 15659420)
Absolute bullshit.

I'll point to Daviyon Nixon and Jamar Johnson as two shining examples of it this year.

Late 4th to early 5th you can still get some talented players. Look at guys at the end of the 4th last year in Sneed and Gabriel Davis.

They exist and capitalizing on them often pays dividends.

And we know those two guys are gonna pan out? Just because "expert" mock drafts think these guys will be good doesn't mean our FO agrees. There will be 1st Rounders who bust out. I will trust the system with these guys. If there is anyone who can unlock his potential it is Daly and Spags. If he doesn't pan out then we try again.

SAGA45 05-03-2021 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 15659412)
It's gonna take at least 3yrs to get this guy good enough to be in the DL rotation.

I think it'll be much sooner than that. Two years at the most before things click. I feel he has more to work with physically than Tanoh. I would not be at all surprised if he flipped a switch at some point THIS season. As Staylor mentioned earlier in the thread, there are some Sneed parallels.

htismaqe 05-03-2021 10:56 AM

He's been plagued by injuries.

If he can get healthy, he'll end up being a really nice pick for a late-rounder.

smithandrew051 05-03-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 15659455)
This prospect is very exciting. One thing we desperately need was a speed rusher that wasn't a smaller guy like Dee Ford. Getting around the edge is easy for Kindoah. Chris Jones and Reed will do the rest.

If he isn’t successful, it won’t be because of his situation. He’ll have Daly coaching him up and guys on the interior taking the attention.

RunKC 05-03-2021 11:03 AM

I still would have taken the Notre Dame kid Adetokunbo Ogundeji. More pro ready, developed, high ceiling and ascended every year in production.

We’ll see how this kid does but he’s my least favorite pick of the draft


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