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tk13 04-17-2017 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12828176)
McNabb 'turned to complete shit' because he was in Washington where everything turned to complete shit and he was ancient.

McNabb's sandlot football went to 4 AFC championship games while Alex Smith can't beat a team that scores zero touchdowns at home. I'll take McNabb over Smith every time and at this point, frustrations aside, I believe Reid would as well.

There's no way he's not !@#$ing tired of this. For all you say about him being older and not wanting to deal with the headache, the guy KNOWS his place in the NFL pantheon of all-time coaches depends on a Super Bowl. If he wins a championship, he becomes a top 10 guy in the eyes of many. He probably goes to the HOF.

He'll have the W%, raw victories and championship he needs to be in the conversation with all but maybe 2-3 guys in NFL history. He NEEDS this championship to have a legacy that matters. He knows it.

He's not going to ride or die with this chickenshit forever. If Mahomes gets to 16, he's a Chief.

McNabb was solid. And I agree they passed downfield way more than we do... but part of that is just the QB. But Reid's offense has always been Reid's offense.

In this 2004 season everyone keeps discussing, they did have Terrell Owens and threw downfield as much as Reid ever has. They also targeted the running backs 148 times that year. By my rough count... the next year with TO they targeted the RBs 157 times. The first year without TO, they attempted 161 passes to the RBs.

Last year, the Chiefs targeted the RBs about 90 times. Now we've replaced some of those attempts by funneling them to Tyreek... but the basic idea is the same. Tons of short passes and getting guys in space.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-17-2017 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12828384)
Thank you for posting this.


Now, can we delete this thread?

Question the source if you want.... but as a Patrick Mahomes advocate, let's just say I've been in a damn good mood since hearing this. :D

bigjosh 04-17-2017 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12828512)
McNabb was solid. And I agree they passed downfield way more than we do... but part of that is just the QB. But Reid's offense has always been Reid's offense.

In this 2004 season everyone keeps discussing, they did have Terrell Owens and threw downfield as much as Reid ever has. They also targeted the running backs 148 times that year. By my rough count... the next year with TO they targeted the RBs 157 times. The first year without TO, they attempted 161 passes to the RBs.

Last year, the Chiefs targeted the RBs about 90 times. Now we've replaced some of those attempts by funneling them to Tyreek... but the basic idea is the same. Tons of short passes and getting guys in space.

in all fairness, the eagles had Brian Westbrook. Why wouldn't you feed him a ton of touches?

tk13 04-17-2017 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 12828535)
in all fairness, the eagles had Brian Westbrook. Why wouldn't you feed him a ton of touches?

Well heck yeah you would. It's by design. Just like our offense is now. Reid loves to get speed, stretch the field horizontally and get those guys in space. Do you really think Andy Reid would sit here for four years suffocating himself with an offense he didn't want? He could quit the Chiefs tomorrow and have 5 job offers by 9 o'clock.

I've said from day one people are going to blame Alex Smith for everything when it's Andy Reid calling the shots.

-King- 04-17-2017 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12828305)
When people say, "McCaffrey is a fit for our offense," they're ignoring the fact that we'd be continuing to feed Alex more short yardage binkies for him to suck on while we need first downs in playoff games.

I don't want to give Alex any more ****ing weapons until he properly uses the ones he's got right the **** in front of him.

What I say to the idea of giving Alex a short yardage YAC target like McCaffrey:

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Reid's offenses have been full of players like mcaffrey. Westbrook, McCoy and Charles. They're critical to Reid's offense. Alex Smith or not, having mcaffrey would be good for the offense.
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Chiefnj2 04-17-2017 09:17 PM

Trade up for a QB everyone says should sit for two years? When is the last time a team used a first round pick on a QB to ride the bench for a few years when the team had an established starter? I don't think it's happened in a decade.

Trade up for a gadget player in the first? An undersized RB who could never carry a full load? Maybe if you have all your other pieces in place, but KC has some holes.

tk13 04-17-2017 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12828599)
Trade up for a QB everyone says should sit for two years? When is the last time a team used a first round pick on a QB to ride the bench for a few years when the team had an established starter? I don't think it's happened in a decade.

Trade up, trade down, it really doesn't matter. You can go to Vegas right now and bet your life savings that if the Chiefs draft a QB, people will be pushing for him to start game 1 regardless of whether he's ready. On the radio shows, on the internet, booing at the stadium.

That's the downside to not having done it in so long. Fans will have zero patience. "Might as well see if he can cut it!"

notorious 04-17-2017 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12828610)
Trade up, trade down, it really doesn't matter. You can go to Vegas right now and bet your life savings that if the Chiefs draft a QB, people will be pushing for him to start game 1 regardless of whether he's ready. On the radio shows, on the internet, booing at the stadium.

That's the downside to not having done it in so long. Fans will have zero patience. "Might as well see if he can cut it!"

The poor bastard will be walking into a buzz saw.

Tribal Warfare 04-17-2017 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12828533)
Question the source if you want.... but as a Patrick Mahomes advocate, let's just say I've been in a damn good mood since hearing this. :D

So the "source " insinuated that the Chiefs were leaning towards Mahomes?

I'll be pissed if they select Mcaffrey

NWTF 04-17-2017 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12828599)
Trade up for a QB everyone says should sit for two years? When is the last time a team used a first round pick on a QB to ride the bench for a few years when the team had an established starter? I don't think it's happened in a decade.

Trade up for a gadget player in the first? An undersized RB who could never carry a full load? Maybe if you have all your other pieces in place, but KC has some holes.

Thats what I see Mccaffrey as in the NFL, a gadget player. Hes a talented player, maybe even one that could be the icing on the cake for a few teams, but hes a luxury pick if your taking him in the 1st rd

pugsnotdrugs19 04-17-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 12828651)
So the "source " insinuated that the Chiefs were leaning towards Mahomes?

I'll be pissed if they select Mcaffrey

Yep.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-17-2017 11:59 PM

Mccafrey A 1st round pick on a guy with the potential to make an impact such as....maybe Julian Edelman? You guys are crazy.

ILB or DB with the #1 if we're not smoking the reefer

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-18-2017 12:01 AM

Watch us trade back into the 2nd round ROFL

TigeRRUppeRRcut 04-18-2017 12:07 AM

Everyone talking about Mahomes like he's the next Cam Newton ( minus the meaningful wins, confidence, athletic ability, and accolades during college play )

And I hate Cam Newton.

Nickhead 04-18-2017 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12828721)
Mccafrey A 1st round pick on a guy with the potential to make an impact such as....maybe Julian Edelman? You guys are crazy.

ILB or DB with the #1 if we're not smoking the reefer

i smoke the reefer, and i do not believe kc should draft for any position except defense in round one. i don't care what position. :D


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