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Rain Man 03-10-2016 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12124171)
Sean Smith is a faider now ... trash away!! :D

He drinks too much.

saphojunkie 03-10-2016 12:53 PM

Looking at the contracts now, how about we have that "Would you rather sign Howard or Smith" conversation again?

Enjoy your thirty year old skill position, Raiders. You'll have a couple of dead money cap years to remind you.

lawrenceRaider 03-10-2016 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 12124191)
Looking at the contracts now, how about we have that "Would you rather sign Howard or Smith" conversation again?

Enjoy your thirty year old skill position, Raiders. You'll have a couple of dead money cap years to remind you.

The money is all up front in the first couple of years. After that we walk away with little or no cap hit. Reggie has done all the FA deals he hands out like that.

WeathermanKumke 03-10-2016 12:57 PM

Love the clowns cursing out Sean smith because we didn't offer him a giant ass contract and had other needs to be filled. But again, those same morons said Geno Smith and RGKnee and other shit QBs were good. Can't wait to be at arrowhead and see Sean smith pick 6 Alex smith and rubs it in all the pathetic worthless white trash that get butthurt whenever a player leaves or doesn't do what they want.

WeathermanKumke 03-10-2016 12:58 PM

I bet you would have been all on your knees sucking his dick if he would have resigned with us

DJ's left nut 03-10-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 12124193)
The money is all up front in the first couple of years. After that we walk away with little or no cap hit. Reggie has done all the FA deals he hands out like that.

The terms haven't been announced yet but if there's actually $20 million in guaranteed money, you've got him for 3 years.

I guess its possible that they still stuck with a low signing bonus and simply guaranteed his first and second year salaries to push that guarantee up a bit. In that case, they could escape after 2 seasons.

As is usually the case, the terms will dictate the 'real' contract. I don't believe those have been released yet.

lawrenceRaider 03-10-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12124112)
It's not going to be a weakness to be honest now. We signed arguably the best RT in the game. Fisher came on last year.
Morse is really good. We need guards possibly we'll see how they go into year two.

Mack picked up a pair of sacks against Swartz last year so . . .

saphojunkie 03-10-2016 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 12124193)
The money is all up front in the first couple of years. After that we walk away with little or no cap hit. Reggie has done all the FA deals he hands out like that.

Link?

lawrenceRaider 03-10-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12124204)
The terms haven't been announced yet but if there's actually $20 million in guaranteed money, you've got him for 3 years.

I guess its possible that they still stuck with a low signing bonus and simply guaranteed his first and second year salaries to push that guarantee up a bit. In that case, they could escape after 2 seasons.

As is usually the case, the terms will dictate the 'real' contract. I don't believe those have been released yet.

All of Reggies deals have guaranteed salary with no or low signing bonuses. It's basically a two year deal with Raider options for years 3 & 4.

Mr. Laz 03-10-2016 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 12124206)
Mack picked up a pair of sacks against Swartz last year so . . .

Mack is a dam good player, he's going to get his


Schwartz owned VonMiller

i think Fisher has a pretty good record against VonMiller too.

Chiefs are building to beat Denver.

DJ's left nut 03-10-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12124202)
Love the clowns cursing out Sean smith because we didn't offer him a giant ass contract and had other needs to be filled. But again, those same morons said Geno Smith and RGKnee and other shit QBs were good. Can't wait to be at arrowhead and see Sean smith pick 6 Alex smith and rubs it in all the pathetic worthless white trash that get butthurt whenever a player leaves or doesn't do what they want.

Sean?

Sean's cousin?

This seems a wildly disproportionate amount of vitriol for what has been a pretty measured response from Chiefs fans.

Chiefnj2 03-10-2016 01:04 PM

Smith was stud at corner for KC. People acting like he was some JAG are clueless. Sutton NEEDS lockdown man corners.

Schwartz was a great signing on paper. Hopefully he pans out better than last years great signing on paper - Grubbs.

Loss of a third round pick sucks ass. Really dumb mistake by management.

Great deal for Howard. I guess the market for 1 year wonders wasn't as big as he thought with this draft class.

It's good to bring back DJ and Hali, especially for sentimental reasons, but at their age they are going to decline quickly. Hopefully the cap hits won't be too bad.

saphojunkie 03-10-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 12124210)
All of Reggies deals have guaranteed salary with no or low signing bonuses. It's basically a two year deal with Raider options for years 3 & 4.

If it's true, then that's a pretty good deal, actually. But $20M guaranteed out of $40M total doesn't seem to add up to no signing bonus.

lawrenceRaider 03-10-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12124211)
Mack is a dam good player, he's going to get his


Schwartz owned VonMiller

i think Fisher has a pretty good record against VonMiller too.

Chiefs are building to beat Denver.

Good. Denver needs to go down, and go down hard. I find it hard to believe they weren't circumventing the cap the last few years, just like the last time they won a Superbowl.

The big difference between Mack and Miller is that Mack can bull rush pretty near any OL where Miller has to run around them. Plus Mack can run around guys well when they set to try and stop his bull rush.

lawrenceRaider 03-10-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 12124222)
If it's true, then that's a pretty good deal, actually. But $20M guaranteed out of $40M total doesn't seem to add up to no signing bonus.

First two years of salary at $10M/year most likely, though I'm not ruling out a signing bonus. Considering what CB's like Jenkins got, the Raiders have a pretty decent deal for Sean Smith. They may have even given him $12M in 2016 as guaranteed salary to lower the hit in later years.


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