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mdchiefsfan 08-18-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9897935)
Nobody has said "I told us so" in this thread. In fact the only ones bringing up any other draft option are the"true fans". Fisher is being evaluated. The evaluations are pretty fair to boot.

Oh, there are plenty of people staking their claims to be right. That is what matters to some here: calling out "busts" before they happen to have the appearance of football knowledge.

Pablo 08-18-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9897939)
What the **** does it matter what I think? The pick was made. Maybe it won't work out maybe it will, but to bitch at this moment is premature. Who knows what he brings to this team, but let's keep up the dog pile mentality and all circle jerk each other while we complain. That fixes everything.

Let's all wish on a star and wait for our dreams to come true. Seriously, have you guys been chiefs fans long? Things don't just work out for us in some sort of dumb luck way. Wait and see again, right?

**** that. I just want the guy to be good. Like right now.

Eleazar 08-18-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9897940)
I seriously laugh my as of at anyone who assumes Albert is gone.

I just figure that Dorsey and Reid wouldn't have drafted Fisher if they agreed with you.

SanDiego49er 08-18-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 9897924)
I am fine with Fisher out of the players who were available at the top of the draft.

But we do have to understand he didn't play against top collegiate competition before, let alone NFL level competition. He's also not playing his natural position. I kind of feel like he should be playing LT now because he will be our LT of the future, Branden Albert's ego be damned.

But you also are afraid of the "shades of Trezelle Jenkins" feeling, where Whitlock wrote that memorable column about how he hated the pick, and Gunther gave him this big spiel, showing him game film and saying how Tree's problems were all technique and they could coach him up.

Who knows what'll happen... there's probably no use slicing each other up about it.

I guess I don't understand why goatse feels the need to gloat when someone on our team goes out there and fails. Why take pleasure in that?

Yes he didn't play top level collegiate competition. But he was the biggest, strongest, fastest, most athletic Tackle in the draft. So who would they draft otherwise? There is an adjustment time frame with him but the upside is the sky. I think you got to gamble on greatness when you have the chance and they did. They could pick somebody with a higher floor but not with a higher ceiling. And they went for the ceiling.

I think that is the right thing to do with the #1 pick.

jd1020 08-18-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9897948)
The same people calling him a pussy for a possible injury are the same ones not speaking a word about guys like Geno and Mingo also being injured this preseason. The same people who (even if they didn't want to draft a RT) blasted picking Joeckl over Fisher because he was safer, are the same ones bitching that Fisher is less NFL-ready than Joeckl.

This is a Chiefs board you dumbass. Who ****ing cares about other teams rookies?

Hammock Parties 08-18-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9897948)
there are people that set this unrealistic expectation that he has to be some star, injury-free player from the get-go, which everybody knew he was not going to be.

No one is saying that.

But blocking PARYS ****ING HARALSON WOULD BE NICE DAMMIT.

aturnis 08-18-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9897948)
He is being evaluated by people pushing an agenda.

The same people calling him a pussy for a possible injury are the same ones not speaking a word about guys like Geno and Mingo also being injured this preseason. The same people who (even if they didn't want to draft a RT) blasted picking Joeckl over Fisher because he was safer, are the same ones bitching that Fisher is less NFL-ready than Joeckl.

If you want to evaluate Fisher play-by-play, great, let's have that discussion. But it's never going to be a discussion if there are people that set this unrealistic expectation that he has to be some star, injury-free player from the get-go, which everybody knew he was not going to be.

I have zero agenda. He looked like hell. PFF also has no agenda.

Pablo 08-18-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 9897952)
I just figure that Dorsey and Reid wouldn't have drafted Fisher if they agreed with you.

Dorsey bet on having Albert sold off by the end of the draft and was dead ****ing wrong. Why should I give that guy the benefit of the doubt again?

Deberg_1990 08-18-2013 09:03 PM

So how are the other top 4 picks of the 2013 draft doing? I ask, because those are the guys we need to be comparing Fisher to. His peers. Anyone know?

mdchiefsfan 08-18-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9897943)
Are we not suppose to take note about how bad he's been playing? Or are we suppose to notice it and just be quiet about it on a forum?

CP: the place to bitch until next week. Got it.

chiefzilla1501 08-18-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9897954)
This is a Chiefs board you dumbass. Who ****ing cares about other teams rookies?

Because when people are pushing the agenda that the pick should have been Geno instead of Eric Fisher, then yeah, it becomes extremely hypocritical when you rag on one guy for playing injured and not the other.

jd1020 08-18-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9897960)
Because when people are pushing the agenda that the pick should have been Geno instead of Eric Fisher, then yeah, it becomes extremely hypocritical when you rag on one guy for playing injured and not the other.

Must be nice to live in the world where if you take a person in a certain situation and put them in a different situation that they experience the exact same things.

mdchiefsfan 08-18-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 9897951)
Let's all wish on a star and wait for our dreams to come true. Seriously, have you guys been chiefs fans long? Things don't just work out for us in some sort of dumb luck way. Wait and see again, right?

**** that. I just want the guy to be good. Like right now.

If you can't grasp development then you will continue to be disgruntled. Have fun.

ToxSocks 08-18-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9897948)
He is being evaluated by people pushing an agenda.

The same people calling him a pussy for a possible injury are the same ones not speaking a word about guys like Geno and Mingo also being injured this preseason. The same people who (even if they didn't want to draft a RT) blasted picking Joeckl over Fisher because he was safer, are the same ones bitching that Fisher is less NFL-ready than Joeckl.

If you want to evaluate Fisher play-by-play, great, let's have that discussion. But it's never going to be a discussion if there are people that set this unrealistic expectation that he has to be some star, injury-free player from the get-go, which everybody knew he was not going to be.

Expecting your 1.1 to be a star isn't realistic? It's expected. If i wanted to draft a player for what he might be 3 years from now, i'd take a QB, not a RT.

We spent an entire offseason arguing this point and look....here we are again.

ToxSocks 08-18-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9897959)
CP: the place to bitch until next week. Got it.

Until next week? Or until they play worth a shit? Yeah, when they play bad, they will be called bad. Nothing new.


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