Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8300871)

Whose fault is it?

It's not my fault. I didn't even set those rules. DaFace set those rules for Hootie. Hootie agreed. Hootie told me, "Fine I won't be a dick, or banter, or do anything fun. I'll just turn into tk13."

He didn't abide by the probationary terms. Despite being given two strikes DURING probation.

I know I'm not a Hootie fan. I'm well aware of the mutual disdain. But I didn't force Hootie to engage Frazod or anybody else. I hoped he could avoid confrontations like that. I SUPPORTED HIS RETURN. I knew this uproar was imminent. I knew it wouldn't be a popular decision. I knew I was going to waste half my weekend explaining why. I've moderated sites like this for over a decade. I am aware of the dynamics of an internet community, particularly ChiefsPlanet.

Do you want me to ban Frazod, who is not on probation, who has not been told he has to avoid Hootie? Is it Frazod's fault? Honestly, if it's not Hootie's fault that he can't follow his agreement then whose fault is it?

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8300876)

It's probably hard for you to understand, but Phobia posted a link to a post you made and Hootie responded to. Then he said Hootie had strict instructions to "stay away from you" as if there is a certain number of feet he is required to abide by.

I give zero shits that you "called him out" for his post, whatever the **** that means in your weird mind.

I do give a shit that he was supposed to just not say anything back to you.

As much as you would love for this to be about you, it isn't.

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8300828)

Ooook we all know the story. Now why didn't the same rules apply to frazod, dartgod, and company? They should have also been encouraged to avoid contact with him. I'm actually getting pissed because this could have been completely avoided if hootie and the parties involved all ignored each other. You gave him an impossible restriction when the opposition had none pertaining to him. They had rights to jump on him when he was supposed to bend over and say, "Please sir, I want some more?" **** that.

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8300891)

It sure is funny to hear you carry on about poor abused Hootie when you dangled off ROR's nuts forever. I lost count of the number of times you stalked him throughout the board. Hell, he hasn't posted here since September, and still you nominated him in the DOTY poll.

But poor little Hootie, when he's an idiot, we should all just leave him alone, right?

Go **** yourself.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8300908)

Your reading comprehension is ****ing horrible.

Where did I say the above? Again, I couldn't possibly care less if you decide to "call Hootie out" constantly. Doubt Hootie did either.

However, he should absolutely be allowed to respond to you, regardless of some "short leash agreement."

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8300887)

It is your fault for taking an "agreement" to an extreme level that I'm sure wasn't the idea when he was allowed back.

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8300913)

It's my fault that Hootie couldn't follow the terms of his probation as defined by DaFace?

I like going to Buffalo Wild Wings a lot. One time I got really drunk and there was an embarrassing altercation with a bartender and a waitress. I got kicked out and told to never return.

A few months later, I called up the manager and told him that I really really liked their wings and beer and that I would do ANYTHING if he'd let me come back.

He talked it over with the General Manager and the bartender and they said that I could come back if I avoided the bartender and that waitress.

Turns out I couldn't help myself. I got into it with the bartender again. I got kicked out again. DAMN THAT GENERAL MANAGER!!!!

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8300926)

Cool story. I would imagine that the general manager would have probably kept his employees in check in that scenario and not allowed them to walk up to your table and take a shit on it.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8300728)

Considering only a few people know the whole story regarding his first of three permabans, the results aren't surprising. Out of those 57 votes, I wonder how many know the whole story and didn't vote based on false information like "Hootie was banned because he spoke out against the DoTY contest" or by simply looking at some of his posts and not knowing why he was on a short leash, etc.

He was permabanned, he knows it was a bannable offense, and obviously shouldn't have been invited back once, much less twice. He couldn't go a month without calling people out, carrying arguments from thread to thread, and attacking people, after already being permabanned twice & specifically being told to let things go. Phobia explains it here, too. How many of the 57 posts considered all of that? Since most of it is buried in a 1200 post thread, I'm guessing not many.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8300926)

Cool story. I would imagine that the general manager would have probably kept his employees in check in that scenario and not allowed them to walk up to your table and take a shit on it.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8300728)

Considering only a few people know the whole story regarding his first of three permabans, the results aren't surprising. Out of those 57 votes, I wonder how many know the whole story and didn't vote based on false information like "Hootie was banned because he spoke out against the DoTY contest" or by simply looking at some of his posts and not knowing why he was on a short leash, etc.

He was permabanned, he knows it was a bannable offense, and obviously shouldn't have been invited back once, much less twice. He couldn't go a month without calling people out, carrying arguments from thread to thread, and attacking people, after already being permabanned twice & specifically being told to let things go. Phobia explains it here, too. How many of the 57 posts considered all of that? Since most of it is buried in a 1200 post thread, I'm guessing not many.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8300926)

Cool story. I would imagine that the general manager would have probably kept his employees in check in that scenario and not allowed them to walk up to your table and take a shit on it.

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8300947)

Sure. Hootie deserves to be banned for all the shit he stirs up on the board, but it's super secret shit that most of us don't even know about. That's hilarious.

Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 8300944)

My question is. have you guys ever considered banning somebody quietly? I dont get the attention hes getting after the fact.

Why do you have to explain anything? its just begging for threads like these.