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philfree 01-14-2009 07:40 PM

The question is does Stafford and Sanchez = Manning and Leaf with a boom and a bust? Or are they gonna be like Manning and Rivers with a boom and a boom? Or god forbid will they turn out like Carr and Herrington and be a nice pair of busts?

PhilFree:arrow:

Pasta Little Brioni 01-14-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391500)
You can read the same dipshittery about Sanchez here.

Alot of people really don't realize how good of a prospect this guy is. You bring him up to most average football fans and they have no clue he's a potential top 3 pick.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-14-2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by evolve27 (Post 5391296)
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Fire the missile, launch the rocket, or float it on in or over the shoulder; is there anything this guy can't do?

It wouldn't even be luck or good maneuvering to land this kid, it would be straight-up Karmic Justice for DECADES of stupidity, pain, and suffering.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-14-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris The Great (Post 5391539)
To be fair, there are probably boards pointing here and laughing because people think Sanchez became a top 3 pick the minute he declared.

Do you really think he would have declared if he hadn't been given the impression he'd be a top 5 pick?

luv 01-14-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris The Great (Post 5391539)
To be fair, there are probably boards pointing here and laughing because people think Sanchez became a top 3 pick the minute he declared.

We're not the only ones. I was watching SC while I was working out today, and they said they weren't for sure if Sanchez might actually go before Stafford.

Gravedigger 01-14-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5391404)
I heard he got a paper cut on his throwing hand in Biology class once.

Nice turnaround, what I'm saying is that the guy was passing to a reciever in PRACTICE and dislocated his knee cap. That's what I'm saying, if you'd read what was in my post instead of what you wanted to read you'll see I said that theres a bunch more reasons why I believe Stafford is better than Sanchez. I believe that at that position you'll see that Maluaga is better than Sanchez in overall productivity. Sanchez IMO is no better than Lienart was with that system.

Here's some simple dialect for ya:

Matthew Stafford, no injuries during starts at Georgia.

Mark Sanchez, dislocated his knee in practice while throwing the ball.

Mark Sanchez in one year has had more injuries than Matthew Stafford in three.

AGAIN that is not the only reason I wouldn't take Sanchez over Stafford, I believe Sanchez is a good QB but not worthy of a top 3 pick. He comes from a system at USC that has been put in place there for many years and makes all QB's look good. Hell John David Booty looked good at USC, given not as good as Sanchez. Matt Stafford had a poor Oline, a bad defense, and almost as many wins as Sanchez. Sanchez had one of the best defenses, a good Oline, good recievers that didnt drop too many balls... hell he had USC! I know what Sanchez is capable of but if you're talking about Stafford or Sanchez my vote is Stafford, but hey thats what makes forums great they are prime places for you to voice your opinion and then have it mercilessly ridiculed by those whose opinions differ.

suds79 01-14-2009 07:50 PM

You know for as much as I've heard people bang on Bradford stating that it's nearly impossible to evaluate him given the talent he's surrounded by, I'm surprised Sanchez seems to get more of a pass on this.

Give me Stafford.

milkman 01-14-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 5391586)
You know for as much as I've heard people bang on Bradford stating that it's nearly impossible to evaluate him given the talent he's surrounded by, I'm surprised Sanchez seems to get more of a pass on this.

Give me Stafford.

Sanchez has faced a lot of pressure and taken a lot of hits.

He isn't surrounded by the talent that Bradford was, and he plays in a pro set.

BigMeatballDave 01-14-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5391465)
He was concerned with the fact that he tends to like to throw into double coverage. Can't do that against an NFL defense.

You're right, in a way. You can, though, when you have the arm that Stafford does.

evolve27 01-14-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5391555)
Fire the missile, launch the rocket, or float it on in or over the shoulder; is there anything this guy can't do?

It wouldn't even be luck or good maneuvering to land this kid, it would be straight-up Karmic Justice for DECADES of stupidity, pain, and suffering.

Dude, I hope if we get him, we can trade down a few spots and pray that we can pick up more 1st/2nd/3rd rnd draft picks. #3 seems kind of high to me. Hope he turns what alot of people say he can do here to good stuff in the Pros.

58-4ever 01-14-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 5391622)
You're right, in a way. You can, though, when you have the arm that Stafford does.

Sanchez has a pretty big arm too. I really hope we land him. I saw Stafford play four times this year, I was only really impressed once. Though, based on potential, I wouldn't cry in my beer if we landed either one.

88TG88 01-14-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5391222)
The person that thinks USC's WR's run wide open or that Sanchez has great blocking or doesn't do much...

Name top flight NFL prospects off USC's offense, actually I'd be surprised if people can name more than a couple players.

I can name a couple players without using google...

Ronald Johnson
Blake Ayles
Damian Williams
Joe Mcknight
Stafon Johnson
CJ Gable
David Ausberry
Vidal Hazelton (:()
Patrick Turner
Stanley Havili
Marc Tyler
Broderick Green (played with him for a few games)
Curtis Mcneal ????

this is what he worked with in 08

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-14-2009 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by evolve27 (Post 5391647)
Dude, I hope if we get him, we can trade down a few spots and pray that we can pick up more 1st/2nd/3rd rnd draft picks. #3 seems kind of high to me. Hope he turns what alot of people say he can do here to good stuff in the Pros.

Prior to watching more college QB film than I ever wanted to in this life, I was ready to say "**** it" and let Thigpen go unchallenged. After watching the Novelty-O fizzle out, I came to understand that we HAD to use that top pick to secure a pro-system, franchise QB for the long haul ahead.

That established, I can say without a doubt that Mark Sanchez is the ONLY current college QB I'd put on the field at Arrowhead TODAY and be confident about the decision.

dorseybowe 01-14-2009 08:21 PM

Staffchez

88TG88 01-14-2009 08:25 PM

Don't know if this was posted
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"Mark is waiting for Coach [Pete] Carroll to return from Hawaii, which is tonight," Nick Sanchez said. "Mark didn't want to do anything without Coach Carroll."
Nick Sanchez said his son will meet with Carroll either Wednesday night or early Thursday.

"Mark has gone both ways on this," Nick Sanchez said, "and he is still undecided."


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