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HemiEd 08-24-2007 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
:D

no ...... the point of the thread was "is the offense so bad that starting Croyle would do more harm(to Brodie) than good?"


"would waiting until the offense settles down a bit and McIntosh is healthy be a better way of developing Croyle?"

I have had multiple posts stating this exact point, that he should not start until the home opener. I agree, with the idea of holding him out until he has a CHANCE to succeed..

dirk digler 08-24-2007 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Croyle's first INT was a bad decision, AFTER being chased out of the pocket because the LT couldn't block my grandma.

Croyle's second INT was a bad decision.

Croyle's third INT was an OBVIOUS miscommunication between him and Kennison and it's quite possible Kennison ran the wrong route.

I highly doubt Kennison ran the wrong route.

Also I remember a play last night where Brodie had all of the time in the world and then he decided to chuck it down the middle of the field. Now that might have been a WR running the wrong route but it was stupid to throw it anyway because the WR was double covered

Mr. Laz 08-24-2007 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Huard gives us a chance to win WHAT?

Huard gives us a chance to avoid permanently scarring our young QB by getting him beat all to hell.


(i'm concerned about Croyle more than the wins this year)

dirk digler 08-24-2007 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
teams are gonna stack the box because it's martyball-esque


why wouldn't you stack the box if you know the coach lives for run,run,pass,punt.

No argument here.

HemiEd 08-24-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave
OMG! LMAO How is it Huard is a 'winner' in all of his 10 seasons of not being a starting QB?

You might want to check his record.

Mr. Laz 08-24-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
I have had multiple posts stating this exact point, that he should not start until the home opener. I agree, with the idea of holding him out until he has a CHANCE to succeed..

like i said ........ you "jordan black-ed" this thread

ROFL

htismaqe 08-24-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Games.

What games? Regular season games?

If you're talking about playoff games, forget it. Huard isn't that guy.

And frankly, I'm tired of winning regular season games and having nothing to show for it.

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Pretty simple when pressed for time.

And pretty effective when you want to shotgun-spam your opinion across 6 or 7 threads.

DenverChief 08-24-2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

you are the Svitek of thread discussions ......... WHIFF!!!!!!!!!


FYP

htismaqe 08-24-2007 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
Huard gives us a chance to avoid permanently scarring our young QB by getting him beat all to hell.


(i'm concerned about Croyle more than the wins this year)

Right. I got no problem with what you're selling.

But don't give me this "Huard gives us a better shot to win" bullshit.

Even Huard's #1 fan (Hootie) acknowledges that he's advocating using Huard as a sacrificial lamb and nothing more.

BigMeatballDave 08-24-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
You might want to check his record.

I am talking about a FULL season.
:rolleyes:

htismaqe 08-24-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
I highly doubt Kennison ran the wrong route.

Also I remember a play last night where Brodie had all of the time in the world and then he decided to chuck it down the middle of the field. Now that might have been a WR running the wrong route but it was stupid to throw it anyway because the WR was double covered

I'm not talking about that throw-away.

I'm talking about blatantly obvious instances where the QB was think "X" route, and the WR was running "Y". They're easy to see.

And all 3 happened to be Kennison.

CoMoChief 08-24-2007 03:13 PM

The problem with the offense is about 2 things.
1. Oline, you can't do anything if they can't block. It's simple as that. You CAN NOT win in this type of Herm Edwards football if you have a shit Oline.

2. Playcalling, our playcalling needs to go more down field and the routes need to better. Then again you HAVE to have pass protection to do this and we have none.

Whether it's Huard or Croyle, the offense needs both of those things listed above. I think we all saw last night what this season can possibly look like. It's the preseason and everything is vanilla. I understand that. But a Saints vanilla game plan just took us back to the woodshed. It's not like these games don't mean anything because they do. They let you know where you are as a team before the reg season starts. Imagine if a full throttle Saints team came in, we'd be down 30 at halftime the way we were playing last night.

Our offense HAS to score points. You CAN NOT win in this league consistently if you don't score points, especially with a mediocre defense like we have.

htismaqe 08-24-2007 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave
I am talking about a FULL season.
:rolleyes:

Huard doesn't have one of those. Not fair!

BigMeatballDave 08-24-2007 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Huard doesn't have one of those. Not fair!

Hey, don't confuse them with facts...
:)

dirk digler 08-24-2007 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I'm not talking about that throw-away.

I'm talking about blatantly obvious instances where the QB was think "X" route, and the WR was running "Y". They're easy to see.

And all 3 happened to be Kennison.

IMO that wasn't a throw away. I can't remember who the WR was, Hannon maybe, but he turned outside and Croyle threw it right down the middle of the field. If Croyle thinks the best way to throw the ball away is to heave down the middle of the field then he is dumber than shit.

As far your other point I don't pretend to know what routes guys are supposed to run but don't most pro teams use option routes? I don't know if the Chiefs would use those with a rookie QB though but they might.


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